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Date:   Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:02:18 +0000 (UTC)
From:   Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com>
To:     rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
Cc:     "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>,
        stable <stable@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix: disable sys_membarrier when nohz_full is enabled

----- On Nov 17, 2016, at 9:50 AM, rostedt rostedt@...dmis.org wrote:

> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 13:54:27 +0000 (UTC)
> Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Acked-by: Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@...il.com>
>> >> > 
>> >> > But I'm afraid, in the future, tick_nohz_full will become a default y
>> >> > feature. thus it makes sys_membarrier() always disabled. we might
>> >> > need a new MEMBARRIER_CMD_XXX to handle it?
>> >> 
>> >> This may require that we send an IPI to nohz_full CPUs, which will
>> >> disturb them real-time wise. Any better ideas ?
>> > 
>> > Restrict the IPIs to CPUs running the process executing the
>> > sys_membarrier() system call.  This would mean that CPUs only
>> > are interrupted by their own application's request.
>> 
>> This would break use-cases of cross-process shared memory. :-(
> 
> Perhaps make this an opt in. That is, all processes that want to be
> affected by this can call this function with some flag that sets a flag
> in tasks struct. And have that process get an IPI even in no-hz-full
> mode if it asked to do it.

That's an interesting approach. I would be tempted to give it a
per-thread (rather than per-process) scope.

E.g., a thread could do the following to ask to be
interrupted by IPIs:

membarrier(MEMBARRIER_CMD_REGISTER_EXPEDITED, 0)

and could unregister with:

membarrier(MEMBARRIER_CMD_UNREGISTER_EXPEDITED, 0)

We can then keep a per-thread refcount internally.
(not sure the "EXPEDITED" is the right word there...
do we want it to be "NOHZ_FULL" instead ?)

Then in membarrier(MEMBARRIER_CMD_SHARED, 0), for each
nohz_full cpu, we grab the rq lock, and only send an IPI
if the running thread is registered as "expedited".

Thoughts ?

Thanks,

Mathieu

-- 
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com

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