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Date:   Tue, 29 Nov 2016 14:46:14 +0000
From:   "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@...el.com>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
CC:     "mingo@...hat.com" <mingo@...hat.com>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "eranian@...gle.com" <eranian@...gle.com>,
        "alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com" 
        <alexander.shishkin@...ux.intel.com>,
        "ak@...ux.intel.com" <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Odzioba, Lukasz" <lukasz.odzioba@...el.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH] perf/x86: fix event counter update issue



> So caveat that I'm ill and cannot think much..
> 
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 11:26:46AM -0800, kan.liang@...el.com wrote:
> 
> > Here, all the possible failure cases are listed.
> > Terms:
> >     - new: current PMU counter value which read from rdpmcl.
> >     - prev: previous counter value which is stored in &hwc->prev_count.
> >     - in PMI/not in PMI: the event update happens in PMI handler or not.
> 
> > Current code to calculate delta:
> >     delta = (new << shift) - (prev << shift);
> >     delta >>= shift;
> >
> > Case A: Not in PMI.  new > prev. But delta is negative.
> >    That's the failure case of Test 2.
> >    delta is s64 type. new and prev are u64 type. If the new is big
> >    enough, after doing left shift and sub, the bit 64 of the result may
> >    still be 1.
> >    After converting to s64, the sign flag will be set. Since delta is
> >    s64 type, arithmetic right shift is applied, which copy the sign flag
> >    into empty bit positions on the upper end of delta.
> >    It can be fixed by adding the max count value.
> >
> >    Here is the real data for test2 on KNL.
> >    new = aea96e1927
> >    prev = ffffff0000000001
> >    delta = aea96e1927000000 - 1000000 = aea96e1926000000
> >    aea96e1926000000 >> 24 = ffffffaea96e1926   <<  negative delta
> 
> How can this happen? IIRC the thing increments, we program a negative
> value, and when it passes 0 we generate a PMI.
> 
> And note that we _ALWAYS_ set the IN bits, even for !sampling events.
> Also note we set max_period to (1<<31) - 1, so we should never exceed 31
> bits.
> 

The max_period is 0xfffffffff.

The limit is breaked by this patch.
069e0c3c4058 ("perf/x86/intel: Support full width counting")
https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/2784191/

	/* Support full width counters using alternative MSR range */
	if (x86_pmu.intel_cap.full_width_write) {
		x86_pmu.max_period = x86_pmu.cntval_mask;
		x86_pmu.perfctr = MSR_IA32_PMC0;
		pr_cont("full-width counters, ");
	}

> 
> > Case B: In PMI. new > prev. delta is positive.
> >    That's the failure case of Test 3.
> >    The PMI is triggered by overflow. But there is latency between
> >    overflow and PMI handler. So new has small amount.
> >    Current calculation lose the max count value.
> 
> That doesn't make sense, per the 31bit limit.
>
> 
> > Case C: In PMI. new < prev. delta is negative.
> >    The PMU counter may be start from a big value. E.g. the fixed period
> >    is small.
> >    It can be fixed by adding the max count value.
> 
> Doesn't make sense, how can this happen?

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