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Message-ID: <20161130140615.3bbn7576iwbyc3op@techsingularity.net>
Date:   Wed, 30 Nov 2016 14:06:15 +0000
From:   Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>
To:     Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Rick Jones <rick.jones2@....com>,
        Paolo Abeni <pabeni@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm: page_alloc: High-order per-cpu page allocator v3

On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 01:40:34PM +0100, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 13:19:54 +0000 Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> > SLUB has been the default small kernel object allocator for quite some time
> > but it is not universally used due to performance concerns and a reliance
> > on high-order pages. The high-order concerns has two major components --
> > high-order pages are not always available and high-order page allocations
> > potentially contend on the zone->lock. This patch addresses some concerns
> > about the zone lock contention by extending the per-cpu page allocator to
> > cache high-order pages. The patch makes the following modifications
> > 
> > o New per-cpu lists are added to cache the high-order pages. This increases
> >   the cache footprint of the per-cpu allocator and overall usage but for
> >   some workloads, this will be offset by reduced contention on zone->lock.
> 
> This will also help performance of NIC driver that allocator
> higher-order pages for their RX-ring queue (and chop it up for MTU).
> I do like this patch, even-though I'm working on moving drivers away
> from allocation these high-order pages.
> 
> Acked-by: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@...hat.com>
> 

Thanks.

> [...]
> > This is the result from netperf running UDP_STREAM on localhost. It was
> > selected on the basis that it is slab-intensive and has been the subject
> > of previous SLAB vs SLUB comparisons with the caveat that this is not
> > testing between two physical hosts.
> 
> I do like you are using a networking test to benchmark this. Looking at
> the results, my initial response is that the improvements are basically
> too good to be true.
> 

FWIW, LKP independently measured the boost to be 23% so it's expected
there will be different results depending on exact configuration and CPU.

> Can you share how you tested this with netperf and the specific netperf
> parameters? 

The mmtests config file used is
configs/config-global-dhp__network-netperf-unbound so all details can be
extrapolated or reproduced from that.

> e.g.
>  How do you configure the send/recv sizes?

Static range of sizes specified in the config file.

>  Have you pinned netperf and netserver on different CPUs?
> 

No. While it's possible to do a pinned test which helps stability, it
also tends to be less reflective of what happens in a variety of
workloads so I took the "harder" option.

> For localhost testing, when netperf and netserver run on the same CPU,
> you observer half the performance, very intuitively.  When pinning
> netperf and netserver (via e.g. option -T 1,2) you observe the most
> stable results.  When allowing netperf and netserver to migrate between
> CPUs (default setting), the real fun starts and unstable results,
> because now the CPU scheduler is also being tested, and my experience
> is also more "fun" memory situations occurs, as I guess we are hopping
> between more per CPU alloc caches (also affecting the SLUB per CPU usage
> pattern).
> 

Yes which is another reason why I used an unbound configuration. I didn't
want to get an artificial boost from pinned server/client using the same
per-cpu caches. As a side-effect, it may mean that machines with fewer
CPUs get a greater boost as there are fewer per-cpu caches being used.

> > 2-socket modern machine
> >                                 4.9.0-rc5             4.9.0-rc5
> >                                   vanilla             hopcpu-v3
> 
> The kernel from 4.9.0-rc5-vanilla to 4.9.0-rc5-hopcpu-v3 only contains
> this single change right?

Yes.

-- 
Mel Gorman
SUSE Labs

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