linux-kernel - Re: Enabling peer to peer device transactions for PCIe devices

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Date:   Mon, 5 Dec 2016 10:08:37 -0800
From:   Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
To:     Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com>
Cc:     Stephen Bates <sbates@...thlin.com>,
        Haggai Eran <haggaie@...lanox.com>,
        Logan Gunthorpe <logang@...tatee.com>,
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        "dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org" <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        Max Gurtovoy <maxg@...lanox.com>,
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Subject: Re: Enabling peer to peer device transactions for PCIe devices

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:02 AM, Jason Gunthorpe
<jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:40:38AM -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
>
>> > If it is kernel only with physical addresess we don't need a uAPI for
>> > it, so I'm not sure #1 is at all related to iopmem.
>> >
>> > Most people who want #1 probably can just mmap
>> > /sys/../pci/../resourceX to get a user handle to it, or pass around
>> > __iomem pointers in the kernel. This has been asked for before with
>> > RDMA.
>> >
>> > I'm still not really clear what iopmem is for, or why DAX should ever
>> > be involved in this..
>>
>> Right, by default remap_pfn_range() does not establish DMA capable
>> mappings. You can think of iopmem as remap_pfn_range() converted to
>> use devm_memremap_pages(). Given the extra constraints of
>> devm_memremap_pages() it seems reasonable to have those DMA capable
>> mappings be optionally established via a separate driver.
>
> Except the iopmem driver claims the PCI ID, and presents a block
> interface which is really *NOT* what people who have asked for this in
> the past have wanted. IIRC it was embedded stuff eg RDMA video
> directly out of a capture card or a similar kind of thinking.
>
> It is a good point about devm_memremap_pages limitations, but maybe
> that just says to create a /sys/.../resource_dmableX ?
>
> Or is there some reason why people want a filesystem on top of BAR
> memory? That does not seem to have been covered yet..
>

I've already recommended that iopmem not be a block device and instead
be a device-dax instance. I also don't think it should claim the PCI
ID, rather the driver that wants to map one of its bars this way can
register the memory region with the device-dax core.

I'm not sure there are enough device drivers that want to do this to
have it be a generic /sys/.../resource_dmableX capability. It still
seems to be an exotic one-off type of configuration.