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Date:   Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:34:50 +0000
From:   Måns Rullgård <mans@...sr.com>
To:     Mason <slash.tmp@...e.fr>
Cc:     Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@...el.com>,
        Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
        dmaengine@...r.kernel.org,
        Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...aro.org>,
        Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        Jon Mason <jdmason@...zu.us>, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
        Lars-Peter Clausen <lars@...afoo.de>,
        Lee Jones <lee.jones@...aro.org>,
        Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com>,
        Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@...el.com>,
        Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@...com>,
        Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@...sung.com>,
        Sebastian Frias <sf84@...oste.net>,
        Thibaud Cornic <thibaud_cornic@...madesigns.com>
Subject: Re: Tearing down DMA transfer setup after DMA client has finished

Mason <slash.tmp@...e.fr> writes:

> On 06/12/2016 14:14, Måns Rullgård wrote:
>
>> Mason wrote:
>> 
>>> On 06/12/2016 06:12, Vinod Koul wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 07:25:02PM +0100, Mason wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there a way to write a driver within the existing framework?
>>>>
>>>> I think so, looking back at comments from Russell, I do tend to agree with
>>>> that. Is there a specific reason why sbox can't be tied to alloc and free
>>>> channels?
>>>
>>> Here's a recap of the situation.
>>>
>>> The "SBOX+MBUS" HW is used in several iterations of the tango SoC:
>>>
>>> tango3
>>>   2 memory channels available
>>>   6 devices ("clients"?) may request an MBUS channel
>>>
>>> tango4 (one more channel)
>>>   3 memory channels available
>>>   7 devices may request an MBUS channel :
>>>     NFC0, NFC1, SATA0, SATA1, memcpy, (IDE0, IDE1)
>>>
>>> Notes:
>>> The current NFC driver supports only one controller.
>> 
>> I consider that a bug.
>
> Meh. The two controller blocks share the I/O pins to the outside
> world, so it's not possible to have two concurrent accesses.

OK, you failed to mention that part.  Why are there two controllers at
all if only one or the other can be used?

>>> If I understand the current DMA driver (written by Mans), client
>>> drivers are instructed to use a specific channel in the DT, and
>>> the DMA driver muxes access to that channel.
>> 
>> Almost.  The DT indicates the sbox ID of each device.  The driver
>> multiplexes requests from all devices across all channels.
>
> Thanks for pointing that out. I misremembered the DT.
> So a client's DT node specifies the client's SBOX port.
> And the DMA node specifies all available MBUS channels.
>
> So when an interrupt fires, the DMA driver (re)uses that
> channel for the next transfer in line?

Correct.

>>> The DMA driver manages a per-channel queue of outstanding DMA transfer
>>> requests, and a new transfer is started from within the DMA ISR
>>> (modulo the fact that the interrupt does not signal completion of the
>>> transfer, as explained else-thread).
>> 
>> We need to somehow let the device driver signal the dma driver when a
>> transfer has been fully completed.  Currently the only post-transfer
>> interaction between the dma engine and the device driver is through the
>> descriptor callback, which is not suitable for this purpose.
>
> The callback is called from vchan_complete() right?
> Is that running from interrupt context?

It runs from a tasklet which is almost the same thing.

> What's the relationship between vchan_complete() and
> tangox_dma_irq() -- does one call the other? Are they
> asynchronous?
>
>> This is starting to look like one of those situations where someone just
>> needs to implement a solution, or we'll be forever bickering about
>> hypotheticals.
>
> I can give that a shot (if you're busy with real work).

I have an idea I'd like to try out over the weekend.  If I don't come
back with something by next week, go for it.

>>> What you're proposing, Vinod, is to make a channel exclusive
>>> to a driver, as long as the driver has not explicitly released
>>> the channel, via dma_release_channel(), right?
>> 
>> That's not going to work very well.  Device drivers typically request
>> dma channels in their probe functions or when the device is opened.
>> This means that reserving one of the few channels there will inevitably
>> make some other device fail to operate.
>
> This is true for tango3. Less so for tango4. And no longer
> an issue for tango5.
>
>> Doing a request/release per transfer really doesn't fit with the
>> intended usage of the dmaengine api.  For starters, what should a driver
>> do if all the channels are currently busy?
>
> Why can't we queue channel requests the same way we queue
> transfer requests?

That's in effect what we're doing.  Calling it by another name doesn't
really solve anything.

-- 
Måns Rullgård

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