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Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2016 11:13:11 -0500 (EST)
From: Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
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Subject: Re: usb/gadget: warning in ep_write_iter/__alloc_pages_nodemask
On Wed, 14 Dec 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Tue 13-12-16 08:33:34, Alan Stern wrote:
> > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >
> > > > > That being said, what ep_write_iter does sounds quite stupit. It just
> > > > > allocates a large continuous buffer which seems to be under user
> > > > > control... Aka no good! It should do that per pages or something like
> > > > > that. Something worth fixing
> > > >
> > > > It's not important enough to make the driver do all this work. If
> > > > users want to send large amounts of data, they can send it a page at a
> > > > time (or something like that).
> > >
> > > Is it really necessary to allocate the full iov_iter_count? Why cannot
> > > we process the from buffer one page at a time?
> >
> > We could (although one page is really too small -- USB 3.1 can transfer
> > 800 KB per ms so we ought to handle at least 128 KB at a time).
>
> Is there any problem to submit larger transfers without having the
> buffer physically contiguous?
Async I/O would be rather awkward; it would have to use a work queue
routine. But it could be done.
And we would still end up allocating the same total space (more
actually, because we would need to store the scatter-gather table too).
It just wouldn't be contiguous.
> > But
> > turn the argument around: If the user wants to transfer that much data,
> > why can't he _submit_ it one page at a time?
>
> Not sure I understand.
>
> > > > If you really want to prevent the driver from attempting to allocate a
> > > > large buffer, all that's needed is an upper limit on the total size.
> > > > For example, 64 KB.
> > >
> > > Well, my point was that it is not really hard to imagine to deplete
> > > larger contiguous memory blocks (say PAGE_ALLOC_COSTLY_ORDER). Those are
> > > still causing the OOM killer and chances are that a controlled flood of
> > > these requests could completely DoS the system.
> >
> > Putting a limit on the total size of a single transfer would prevent
> > this.
>
> Dunno, putting a limit to the user visible interface sounds wrong to me.
In practice, I think the data transfer sizes tend to be not very large.
But I could be wrong about that.
Alan Stern
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