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Date:   Thu, 22 Dec 2016 11:00:12 +0100
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
To:     David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...hsingularity.net>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [patch] mm, thp: always direct reclaim for MADV_HUGEPAGE even
 when deferred

On Wed 21-12-16 16:21:54, David Rientjes wrote:
> Currently, when defrag is set to "madvise", thp allocations will direct
> reclaim.  However, when defrag is set to "defer", all thp allocations do
> not attempt reclaim regardless of MADV_HUGEPAGE.
> 
> This patch always directly reclaims for MADV_HUGEPAGE regions when defrag
> is not set to "never."  The idea is that MADV_HUGEPAGE regions really
> want to be backed by hugepages and are willing to endure the latency at
> fault as it was the default behavior prior to commit 444eb2a449ef ("mm:
> thp: set THP defrag by default to madvise and add a stall-free defrag
> option").

AFAIR "defer" is implemented exactly as intended. To offer a never-stall
but allow to form THP in the background option. The patch description
doesn't explain why this is not good anymore. Could you give us more
details about the motivation and why "madvise" doesn't work for
you? This is a user visible change so the reason should better be really
documented and strong.

I am worried that after this patch we really lose a lightweight option
which guarantees _no_ THP specific stalls during the page fault which
was the biggest pain in the past.

> In this form, "defer" is a stronger, more heavyweight version of
> "madvise".
> 
> Signed-off-by: David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>
> ---
>  Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt |  7 +++++--
>  mm/huge_memory.c               | 10 ++++++----
>  2 files changed, 11 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt b/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
> --- a/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
> +++ b/Documentation/vm/transhuge.txt
> @@ -121,8 +121,11 @@ to utilise them.
>  
>  "defer" means that an application will wake kswapd in the background
>  to reclaim pages and wake kcompact to compact memory so that THP is
> -available in the near future. It's the responsibility of khugepaged
> -to then install the THP pages later.
> +available in the near future, unless it is for a region where
> +madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE) has been used, in which case direct reclaim will be
> +used. Kcompactd will attempt to make hugepages available for allocation in
> +the near future and khugepaged will try to collapse existing memory into
> +hugepages later.
>  
>  "madvise" will enter direct reclaim like "always" but only for regions
>  that are have used madvise(MADV_HUGEPAGE). This is the default behaviour.
> diff --git a/mm/huge_memory.c b/mm/huge_memory.c
> --- a/mm/huge_memory.c
> +++ b/mm/huge_memory.c
> @@ -619,15 +619,17 @@ static int __do_huge_pmd_anonymous_page(struct vm_fault *vmf, struct page *page,
>   */
>  static inline gfp_t alloc_hugepage_direct_gfpmask(struct vm_area_struct *vma)
>  {
> -	bool vma_madvised = !!(vma->vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE);
> +	const bool vma_madvised = !!(vma->vm_flags & VM_HUGEPAGE);
>  
>  	if (test_bit(TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_REQ_MADV_FLAG,
>  				&transparent_hugepage_flags) && vma_madvised)
>  		return GFP_TRANSHUGE;
>  	else if (test_bit(TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_KSWAPD_FLAG,
> -						&transparent_hugepage_flags))
> -		return GFP_TRANSHUGE_LIGHT | __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM;
> -	else if (test_bit(TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_DIRECT_FLAG,
> +						&transparent_hugepage_flags)) {
> +		return GFP_TRANSHUGE_LIGHT |
> +		       (vma_madvised ? __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM :
> +				       __GFP_KSWAPD_RECLAIM);
> +	} else if (test_bit(TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_DEFRAG_DIRECT_FLAG,
>  						&transparent_hugepage_flags))
>  		return GFP_TRANSHUGE | (vma_madvised ? 0 : __GFP_NORETRY);
>  
> 
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-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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