linux-kernel - Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/4] RFC: in-kernel resource manager

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Message-ID: <20170111190428.GA17873@obsidianresearch.com>
Date:   Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:04:28 -0700
From:   Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com>
To:     James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
Cc:     Ken Goldman <kgoldman@...ibm.com>, greg@...ellic.com,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
        tpmdd-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [PATCH RFC 0/4] RFC: in-kernel resource manager

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 10:25:57AM -0800, James Bottomley wrote:

> Right, but we're going around in circles.  I'm currently researching
> what it would take to be daemonless, so an ioctl which requires an
> access broker daemon would obviously be something I'd object to.

Well, when we figure out a security model that works for that and can
be implemented in the kernel then lets add the new cdev.

But that is *explicitly* not what Jarkko is doing, no reason to jump
the gun.

> Basically, though, I think you can do both: we can add an ioctl and the
> differing device hooks.  I just think for that case RAW vs RM would be
> redundant.

Right, some future new cdev would only support ioctl and only the RM
path, but for priv use having both concurrently available makes sense
as a userspace broker producing a full RM will need to using both paths.

Jason