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Message-ID: <20170119124101.nw7a7m735zhiivfo@intel.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2017 14:41:01 +0200
From: Jarkko Sakkinen <jarkko.sakkinen@...ux.intel.com>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
Cc: tpmdd-devel@...ts.sourceforge.net,
linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org,
open list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [tpmdd-devel] [RFC] tpm2-space: add handling for global session
exhaustion
On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 02:25:33PM +0200, Jarkko Sakkinen wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 03:48:09PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> > In a TPM2, sessions can be globally exhausted once there are
> > TPM_PT_ACTIVE_SESSION_MAX of them (even if they're all context saved).
> > The Strategy for handling this is to keep a global count of all the
> > sessions along with their creation time. Then if we see the TPM run
> > out of sessions (via the TPM_RC_SESSION_HANDLES) we first wait for one
> > to become free, but if it doesn't, we forcibly evict an existing one.
> > The eviction strategy waits until the current command is repeated to
> > evict the session which should guarantee there is an available slot.
> >
> > On the force eviction case, we make sure that the victim session is at
> > least SESSION_TIMEOUT old (currently 2 seconds). The wait queue for
> > session slots is a FIFO one, ensuring that once we run out of
> > sessions, everyone will get a session in a bounded time and once they
> > get one, they'll have SESSION_TIMEOUT to use it before it may be
> > subject to eviction.
> >
> > Signed-off-by: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
>
> I didn't yet read the code properly. I'll do a more proper review
> once I have v4 of my patch set together. This comment is solely
> based on your commit message.
>
> I'm just thinking that do we need this complicated timeout stuff
> or could you just kick a session out in LRU fashion as we run
> out of them?
>
> Or one variation of what you are doing: couldn't the session that
> needs a session handle to do something sleep for 2 seconds and then
> take the oldest session? It would have essentially the same effect
> but no waitqueue needed.
>
> Yeah, as I said, this is just commentary based on the description.
I actually think that the very best solution would be such that
sessions would be *always* lease based. So when you create a
session you would always loose within a time limit.
There would not be any special victim selection mechanism. You
would just loose your session within a time limit.
This could be already part of the session isolation and would
actually make only isolation usable.
We do not have API yet locked so why not make API that models
the nature of the resource. Here given that the amount of sessions
is always fixed leases make sense.
You just then need a wait queue for those waiting for leases.
They don't need to do any victim selectio or whatever. Everything
that takes above the lease gets flushed.
I strongly feel that this would be the best long term solution.
/Jarkko
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