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Date:   Thu, 19 Jan 2017 15:40:25 +0100
From:   Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@...eet.de>
To:     Rob Herring <robh@...nel.org>
CC:     "dmitry.torokhov@...il.com" <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
        "pawel.moll@....com" <pawel.moll@....com>,
        "ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk" <ijc+devicetree@...lion.org.uk>,
        "galak@...eaurora.org" <galak@...eaurora.org>,
        "luis@...ethencourt.com" <luis@...ethencourt.com>,
        "linux-input@...r.kernel.org" <linux-input@...r.kernel.org>,
        "devicetree@...r.kernel.org" <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/3] input: pwm-beeper: add documentation for volume
 devicetree bindings

On 11.10.2016 15:39, Rob Herring wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 3:17 AM, Schrempf Frieder
> <frieder.schrempf@...eet.de> wrote:
>> On 10.10.2016 17:20, Rob Herring wrote:
>>> On Fri, Oct 07, 2016 at 09:08:17AM +0000, Schrempf Frieder wrote:
>>>> This patch adds the documentation for the devicetree bindings to set
>>>> the volume levels.
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@...eet.de>
>>>> ---
>>>> Changes in v2:
>>>>  - split into 3 separate patches
>>>>  - make volume properties optional
>>>>
>>>>  .../devicetree/bindings/input/pwm-beeper.txt       | 22 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>  1 file changed, 22 insertions(+)
>>>>
>>>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/pwm-beeper.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/pwm-beeper.txt
>>>> index be332ae..6d8ba4e 100644
>>>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/pwm-beeper.txt
>>>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/input/pwm-beeper.txt
>>>> @@ -5,3 +5,25 @@ Registers a PWM device as beeper.
>>>>  Required properties:
>>>>  - compatible: should be "pwm-beeper"
>>>>  - pwms: phandle to the physical PWM device
>>>> +
>>>> +Optional properties:
>>>> +- volume-levels: Array of distinct volume levels. These need to be in the
>>>> +      range of 0 to 500, while 0 means 0% duty cycle (mute) and 500 means
>>>> +      50% duty cycle (max volume).
>>>> +      Please note that the actual volume of most beepers is highly
>>>> +      non-linear, which means that low volume levels are probably somewhere
>>>> +      in the range of 1 to 30 (0.1-3% duty cycle).
>>>
>>> What does the index correspond to? The linear volume?
>>
>> In most cases users probably need linear volume levels (e.g. 0%, 25%,
>> 50%, 75%, 100%) and in this case the index would indeed correspond to
>> the linear perceived volume.
>>
>> But also non-linear relations are possible (e.g. 0%, 20%, 100%), if the
>> user needs for example "mute", "low", "high" as volume levels.
>
> Exclude off/mute and this is still linear. Also, the user exposed
> levels could be a subset of the defined h/w levels. That should be
> independent of DT.

Ok
>
>> The linearization (defining the corresponding duty cycle for each index)
>> depends on the beeper and the perception of the user.
>
> This has to be a consistent interface across h/w to have a userspace
> that can work across h/w. For that, you have to define the binding as
> linear. Of course, it's all measured by perception and not completely
> accurate which is fine.

I see. I will resend and change the description to make clear, that the
volume-levels property is meant to specify linear volume levels.
>
>> For the example array definition below, I tried different duty cycles
>> and found values of 0.8%, 2%, 4%, 50% to be approximately correspondent
>> to perceived volume levels of 25%, 50%, 75%, 100% in my case.
>>
>>>
>>>> +- default-volume-level: the default volume level (index into the
>>>> +      array defined by the "volume-levels" property)
>>>> +
>>>> +The volume level can be set via sysfs under /sys/class/input/inputX/volume.
>>>> +The maximum volume level index can be read from /sys/class/input/inputX/max_volume_level.
>
> Also, drop this. Not relevant to the binding.

Ok, I will drop this.
>
> Rob
>

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