linux-kernel - Re: v4.10-rc4 to v4.10-rc5: battery regression on Nokia N900

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Message-ID: <37154fca-5cfd-7f65-0f9b-14b979a094e6@roeck-us.net>
Date:   Fri, 27 Jan 2017 06:13:43 -0800
From:   Guenter Roeck <linux@...ck-us.net>
To:     Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
Cc:     Zhang Rui <rui.zhang@...el.com>,
        Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com>,
        sre@...nel.org, kernel list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        linux-omap@...r.kernel.org, tony@...mide.com, khilman@...nel.org,
        aaro.koskinen@....fi, ivo.g.dimitrov.75@...il.com,
        patrikbachan@...il.com, serge@...lyn.com, abcloriens@...il.com,
        fabio.estevam@....com
Subject: Re: v4.10-rc4 to v4.10-rc5: battery regression on Nokia N900

On 01/27/2017 03:16 AM, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
>
>>>> That sounds like fun. Changing bq27200-0 to bq27200_0 is Forbidden by
>>>> the ABI Police, but taking the entire device away is ok.
>
> Changing bq27200-0 to bq27200_0 is forbidden in -rc6 time. If you
> believe noone depends on the name, argue your case, and it might be
> possible to change it in -rc0.
>
> If someone uses the name, they care about the device, and you can't
> take it away.
>
>>> No. IMO, it depends on if the interface is used or not.
>>> If hwmon I/F is used, we can not take it away, nor change its name.
>>
>> Even if the use doesn't depend on that name ?
>
> If the use doesn't depend on the name, you may get away with changing
> the name. (But not in -rc6.)
>
>>> If thermal zone I/F is used, we can not change it's 'type' name to be
>>> compatible with new hwmon API.
>>
>> You mean you can not fix the name to be compatible with libsensors.
>>
>> Makes me wonder if there shouldn't be a rule that exploits must not
>> be fixed if already exploited.
>
> That is not useful argumentation.

Oh, but it is. Providing a valid name is a bug fix for me. For you it is
an ABI change. So the ultimate question is what counts as an ABI change
and what counts as a bug fix.

Guenter