linux-kernel - Re: Potential issues (security and otherwise) with the current cgroup-bpf API

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Date:   Fri, 3 Feb 2017 13:07:39 -0800
From:   Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>
To:     Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com>
Cc:     Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
        Mickaël Salaün <mic@...ikod.net>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>, Jann Horn <jann@...jh.net>,
        "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Thomas Graf <tgraf@...g.ch>,
        Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@...il.com>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Network Development <netdev@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Potential issues (security and otherwise) with the current
 cgroup-bpf API

On Mon, Jan 23, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net> wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Alexei Starovoitov
> <alexei.starovoitov@...il.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 08:04:59PM -0800, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> restricting the types of sockets that can be created, then you do want
>>> the filter to work across namespaces, but seccomp can do that too and
>>> the current code doesn't handle netns correctly.
>>
>> are you saying that seccomp supports netns filtering? please show the proof.
>
> It can trivially restruct the types of sockets that are created by
> filtering on socket(2) syscall parameters, at least on sane
> architectures that don't use socketcall().

I think this is actually wrong -- the socket creation filter appears
to be called only on inet sockets.  Is there a good reason for that?

>
>> To summarize, I think the 'prog override is not allowed' flag would be
>> ok feature to have and I wouldn't mind making it the default when no 'flag'
>> field is passed to bpf syscall, but it's not acceptable to remove current
>> 'prog override is allowed' behavior.
>> So if you insist on changing the default, please implement the flag asap.
>> Though from security point of view and ABI point of view there is absolutely
>> no difference whether this flag is added today or a year later while
>> the default is kept as-is.
>
> It's too late and I have too little time.  I'll try to write a patch
> to change the default to just deny attempts to override.  Better
> behavior can be added later.
>
> IMO your suggestions about priorities are overcomplicated.  For your
> instrumentation needs, I can imagine that a simple "make this hook not
> run if a descendent has a hook" would do it.  For everything else, run
> them all in tree order (depending on filter type) and let the eBPF
> code do whatever it wants to do.

Is there any plan to address this?  If not, I'll try to write that
patch this weekend.