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Message-ID: <20170203222822.GG27312@n2100.armlinux.org.uk>
Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2017 22:28:22 +0000
From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@...linux.org.uk>
To: Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
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Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@....com>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/2] arch: Move CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA and
CONFIG_SET_MODULE_RONX to be common
On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 01:08:40PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 12:29 PM, Russell King - ARM Linux
> <linux@...linux.org.uk> wrote:
> > On Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 11:45:56AM -0800, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> On Fri, Feb 3, 2017 at 9:52 AM, Laura Abbott <labbott@...hat.com> wrote:
> >> > diff --git a/arch/Kconfig b/arch/Kconfig
> >> > index 99839c2..22ee01e 100644
> >> > --- a/arch/Kconfig
> >> > +++ b/arch/Kconfig
> >> > @@ -781,4 +781,32 @@ config VMAP_STACK
> >> > the stack to map directly to the KASAN shadow map using a formula
> >> > that is incorrect if the stack is in vmalloc space.
> >> >
> >> > +config ARCH_NO_STRICT_RWX_DEFAULTS
> >> > + def_bool n
> >> > +
> >> > +config ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
> >> > + def_bool n
> >> > +
> >> > +config DEBUG_RODATA
> >> > + def_bool y if !ARCH_NO_STRICT_RWX_DEFAULTS
> >> > + prompt "Make kernel text and rodata read-only" if ARCH_NO_STRICT_RWX_DEFAULTS
> >>
> >> Ah! Yes, perfect. I totally forgot about using conditional "prompt"
> >> lines. Nice!
> >
> > It's no different from the more usual:
> >
> > bool "Make kernel text and rodata read-only" if ARCH_NO_STRICT_RWX_DEFAULTS
> > default y if !ARCH_NO_STRICT_RWX_DEFAULTS
> > depends on ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
> >
> > But... I really don't like this - way too many negations and negatives
> > which make it difficult to figure out what's going on here.
> >
> > The situation we have today is:
> >
> > -config DEBUG_RODATA
> > - bool "Make kernel text and rodata read-only"
> > - depends on MMU && !XIP_KERNEL
> > - default y if CPU_V7
> >
> > which is "allow the user to select DEBUG_RODATA if building a MMU non-XIP
> > kernel", suggesting that the user turns it on for ARMv7 CPUs.
> >
> > That changes with this and the above:
> >
> > + select ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX if MMU && !XIP_KERNEL
> > + select ARCH_HAS_STRICT_MODULE_RWX if MMU
> > + select ARCH_NO_STRICT_RWX_DEFAULTS if !CPU_V7
> >
> > This means that ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX is set for a MMU non-XIP
> > kernel, which carries the same pre-condition for DEBUG_RODATA - no
> > problem there.
> >
> > However, ARCH_NO_STRICT_RWX_DEFAULTS is set for non-ARMv7 CPUs, which
> > means the "Make kernel text and rodata read-only" prompt _is_ provided
> > for those. However, for all ARMv7 systems, we go from "suggesting that
> > the user enables the option" to "you don't have a choice, you get this
> > whether you want it or not."
> >
> > I'd prefer to keep it off for my development systems, where I don't
> > care about kernel security. If we don't wish to do that as a general
> > rule, can we make it dependent on EMBEDDED?
> >
> > Given that on ARM it can add up to 4MB to the kernel image - there
> > _will_ be about 1MB before the .text section, the padding on between
> > __modver and __ex_table which for me is around 626k, the padding
> > between .notes and the init sections start with .vectors (the space
> > between __ex_table and end of .notes is only 4124, which gets padded
> > up to 1MB) and lastly the padding between the .init section and the
> > data section (for me around 593k). This all adds up to an increase
> > in kernel image size of 3.2MB on 14.2MB - an increase of 22%.
> >
> > So no, I'm really not happy with that.
>
> Ah yeah, good point. We have three cases: unsupported, mandatory,
> optional, but we have the case of setting the default for the optional
> case. Maybe something like this?
>
> config STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
> bool "Make kernel text and rodata read-only" if ARCH_OPTIONAL_KERNEL_RWX
> depends on ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
> default ARCH_OPTIONAL_KERNEL_RWX_DEFAULT
>
> unsupported:
> !ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
>
> mandatory:
> ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
> !ARCH_OPTIONAL_KERNEL_RWX
>
> optional:
> ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
> ARCH_OPTIONAL_KERNEL_RWX
> with default controlled by ARCH_OPTIONAL_KERNEL_RWX_DEFAULT
>
> Then arm is:
> select ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX if MMU && !XIP_KERNEL
> select ARCH_HAS_STRICT_MODULE_RWX if MMU
> select ARCH_OPTIONAL_KERNEL_RWX if ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
> select ARCH_OPTIONAL_KERNEL_RWX_DEFAULT if CPU_V7
>
> x86 and arm64 are:
> select ARCH_HAS_STRICT_KERNEL_RWX
> select ARCH_HAS_STRICT_MODULE_RWX
Looks to me like it will do the job.
In passing, I noticed that, on ARM:
3 .rodata 002212b4 c0703000 c0703000 00703000 2**6
CONTENTS, ALLOC, LOAD, DATA
a lack of READONLY there - which suggests something in this lot isn't
actually read-only data:
.rodata : AT(ADDR(.rodata) - LOAD_OFFSET) { \
VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__start_rodata) = .; \
*(.rodata) *(.rodata.*) \
RO_AFTER_INIT_DATA /* Read only after init */ \
KEEP(*(__vermagic)) /* Kernel version magic */ \
. = ALIGN(8); \
VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__start___tracepoints_ptrs) = .; \
KEEP(*(__tracepoints_ptrs)) /* Tracepoints: pointer array */ \
VMLINUX_SYMBOL(__stop___tracepoints_ptrs) = .; \
*(__tracepoints_strings)/* Tracepoints: strings */ \
} \
I suspect it's the RO_AFTER_INIT_DATA section - maybe this should be
placed into its own separate output section? I don't think it's doing
any harm, it's just odd that the .rodata section is marked as a normal
data section.
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