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Date:   Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:05:47 +0100
From:   Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>
To:     "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <hns@...delico.com>
Cc:     Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@...il.com>,
        Sebastian Reichel <sre@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>,
        Benoît Cousson <bcousson@...libre.com>,
        Tony Lindgren <tony@...mide.com>,
        Russell King <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Michael Welling <mwelling@...e.org>,
        Mika Penttilä <mika.penttila@...tfour.com>,
        Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@....samsung.com>,
        Igor Grinberg <grinberg@...pulab.co.il>,
        "Andrew F. Davis" <afd@...com>, Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
        Jonathan Cameron <jic23@...nel.org>,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        Alexander Stein <alexander.stein@...tec-electronic.com>,
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        Michel Verlaan <michel.verl@...il.com>,
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        kernel@...a-handheld.com, Aaro Koskinen <aaro.koskinen@...ia.com>,
        Pali Rohár <pali.rohar@...il.com>,
        Andrey Gelman <andrey.gelman@...pulab.co.il>,
        Haibo Chen <haibo.chen@...escale.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: add new common binding
 names, pre-calibration, flipping and rotation

Hi!

> Hi Pavel,
> I love discussions with you :)

Unfortunately I can't say the same.

> > Am 19.02.2017 um 18:15 schrieb Pavel Machek <pavel@....cz>:
> > 
> > 
> >>> Solve it properly. That means passing calibration
> >>> data from kernel to userland.
> >> 
> >> As written before, the really proper solution would be to provide floating
> >> or fixed point subpixel input events. Not arbitrarily scaling up in kernel
> >> and leaving downscaling to user space (where everybody can make it
> >> worse).
> > 
> > That has no advantages,
> 
> It has the advantage of providing you with the full precision of raw data (but
> properly scaled) so that you don't loose any bit of information. This is what
> you just asked for - one or two mails before.

Not really, right? No matter what kind of fixed point you introduce,
you'll still loose precision.

> > and floating point in kernel is hard. Also
> > you'd either have to invent new interface, or you'd break touchscreen
> > for people that already have their touchscreens calibrated.
> 
> No, I don't break calibration for people using a different chip.

So you propose your touchscreen to behave differently from all other
touchscreens in tree? That's just no-go.

> > Yes, that's not really proper solution, that just overengineered. Not
> > worth implementing. Pass calibration data to userland.
> 
> You seem to repeat yourself and just say which solution you prefer,
> but I am missing the arguments why your solution (Pass calibration data
> to userland) is right and the best one.
> Which problems does it solve?

All you described.

> Which one does it solve better than others?

It is not terminally ugly.

> How can you implement it in
> a stable and portable way?

Easily.

> How can you make sure that all user-space GUI
> systems can and will make use of this calibration data?

You can't, and you don't need to.

									Pavel
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