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Date:   Tue, 21 Feb 2017 09:29:53 +0100
From:   "H. Nikolaus Schaller" <>
To:     Petr Cvek <>,
        Dmitry Torokhov <>,
        Pavel Machek <>,
        Sebastian Reichel <>,
        Pali Rohár <>
Cc:     Mark Rutland <>,
        Benoît Cousson <>,
        Tony Lindgren <>,
        Russell King <>,
        Arnd Bergmann <>,
        Michael Welling <>,
        Mika Penttilä <>,
        Javier Martinez Canillas <>,
        Igor Grinberg <>,
        "Andrew F. Davis" <>, Mark Brown <>,
        Jonathan Cameron <>,
        Rob Herring <>,
        Alexander Stein <>,
        Eric Engestrom <>,
        Hans de Goede <>,
        Benjamin Tissoires <>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <>,
        Hans Verkuil <>,
        Nick Dyer <>,
        Siebren Vroegindeweij <>,
        Michel Verlaan <>,,
        devicetree <>,
        LKML <>,
        linux-omap <>,
        Discussions about the Letux Kernel 
        <>,,, Aaro Koskinen <>,
        Andrey Gelman <>,
        Haibo Chen <>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/8] drivers:input:tsc2007: add new common binding names, pre-calibration, flipping and rotation

Hi Petr and all,

> Am 20.02.2017 um 23:26 schrieb Petr Cvek <>:
> Hi
> Dne 20.2.2017 v 17:50 H. Nikolaus Schaller napsal(a):
>> Hi Pavel,
>>> Am 19.02.2017 um 23:19 schrieb Pavel Machek <>:
>>> hi!
>>>>>> But as said I don't think we need float or fixed point for practical systems
>>>>>> at all.
>>>>> So you are going to loose precision. And if userspace decides to
>>>>> calibrate it slightly differently from kernel, lost precision will
>>>>> matter.
>>>> Really?
>>> Really.
>>>> Example:
>>>> ADC values go 100 .. 3995 (i.e. touch margin is 100 steps in pre-calibration)
>>>> This is scaled to let's say 0..640.
>>> Ok. Now userspace realizes that kernel alignemnt is off, and it would
>>> want to scale it to 1..642.
>> Screen coordinates are still 0..639.
>>> That will mean that single pixel will be
>>> inaccessible, right?
>> Yes, that can happen if the additional user-space scale is > 1.0.
>> As long as it is small (I expect <1.01 = 1% error in scale) it is
>> barely noticeable.
>> Therefore, I asked before: how big in pixels is your finger or stylus?
>> Does this effect matter?
>> A resistive touch is a man-machine-interface where people press buttons of at
>> least 12x12 pixels size (or they are no longer visually recognizable).
> Smallest kernel font is 4x6 (i think) and I'm regularly using 8x8. I would like
> to be able to select a single letter in the console.

So you probably have exceptionally good eyes and reading a terminal on a touch
screen is not a typical use case (except for us hard-core programmers).

Anyways, if there is only a single pixel is not accessible due do rescaling and integer
truncation effects (which is what Pavel complained) you can still select single letters
in a 4x6 font.


So, let's close commenting this patch here since in my opinion everything is said
and the maintainers have decided not to accept it.

I hope that I have not forgotten anyone to answer.

Thank you very much to all participants for this discussion, because it was
really enlightening to me and contains a lot of new perspectives.

BR and thanks,

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