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Message-ID: <f9cfbde0-de54-6603-f0bf-9a7086840fda@gmail.com>
Date:   Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:21:03 -0800
From:   Steve Longerbeam <slongerbeam@...il.com>
To:     Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@....fi>
Cc:     robh+dt@...nel.org, mark.rutland@....com, shawnguo@...nel.org,
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        devel@...verdev.osuosl.org,
        Russell King <rmk+kernel@...linux.org.uk>,
        Steve Longerbeam <steve_longerbeam@...tor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 29/36] media: imx: mipi-csi2: enable setting and
 getting of frame rates



On 02/21/2017 04:15 AM, Sakari Ailus wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 02:56:15PM -0800, Steve Longerbeam wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 02/20/2017 02:04 PM, Sakari Ailus wrote:
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 06:19:31PM -0800, Steve Longerbeam wrote:
>>>> From: Russell King <rmk+kernel@...linux.org.uk>
>>>>
>>>> Setting and getting frame rates is part of the negotiation mechanism
>>>> between subdevs.  The lack of support means that a frame rate at the
>>>> sensor can't be negotiated through the subdev path.
>>>
>>> Just wondering --- what do you need this for?
>>
>>
>> Hi Sakari,
>>
>> i.MX does need the ability to negotiate the frame rates in the
>> pipelines. The CSI has the ability to skip frames at the output,
>> which is something Philipp added to the CSI subdev. That affects
>> frame interval at the CSI output.
>>
>> But as Russell pointed out, the lack of [gs]_frame_interval op
>> causes media-ctl to fail:
>>
>> media-ctl -v -d /dev/media1 --set-v4l2
>> '"imx6-mipi-csi2":1[fmt:SGBRG8/512x512@...0]'
>>
>> Opening media device /dev/media1
>> Enumerating entities
>> Found 29 entities
>> Enumerating pads and links
>> Setting up format SGBRG8 512x512 on pad imx6-mipi-csi2/1
>> Format set: SGBRG8 512x512
>> Setting up frame interval 1/30 on entity imx6-mipi-csi2
>> Unable to set frame interval: Inappropriate ioctl for device (-25)Unable to
>> setup formats: Inappropriate ioctl for device (25)
>>
>>
>> So i.MX needs to implement this op in every subdev in the
>> pipeline, otherwise it's not possible to configure the
>> pipeline with media-ctl.
>
> The frame rate is only set on the sub-device which you explicitly set it.
> I.e. setting the frame rate fails if it's not supported on a pad.
>
> Philipp recently posted patches that add frame rate propagation to
> media-ctl.
>
> Frame rate is typically settable (and gettable) only on sensor sub-device's
> source pad,  which means it normally would not be propagated by the kernel
> but with Philipp's patches, on the sink pad of the bus receiver. Receivers
> don't have a way to control it nor they implement the IOCTLs, so that would
> indeed result in an error.
>

Frame rate is really an essential piece of information. The spatial
dimensions and data type provided by set_fmt are really only half the
equation, the other is temporal, i.e. the data rate.

It's true that subdevices have no control over the frame rate at their
sink pads, but the same argument applies to set_fmt. Even if it has
no control over the data format it receives, it still needs that
information in order to determine the correct format at the source.
The same argument applies to frame rate.

So in my opinion, the behavior of [gs]_frame_interval should be, if a
subdevice is capable of modifying the frame rate, then it should
implement [gs]_frame_interval at _all_ of its pads, similar to set_fmt.
And frame rate should really be part of link validation the same as
set_fmt is.

Steve

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