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Message-ID: <20170224204227.GN29622@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Date:   Fri, 24 Feb 2017 20:42:27 +0000
From:   Al Viro <viro@...IV.linux.org.uk>
To:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
Cc:     Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Chris Mason <clm@...com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org, David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        elena.reshetova@...el.com, ishkamiel@...il.com, dwindsor@...il.com,
        gregkh@...uxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 00/10] On inode::i_count and the usage vs reference
 count issue

On Fri, Feb 24, 2017 at 04:43:29PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
 
> There's a number of options here:
> 
>  - I'm not completely insane, and these patches can be made to work.
> 
>  - We decide usage-counts are useful and try and support them in refcount_t;
>    this has the down-side that people can more easily write bad code (by doing
>    from 0 increments that should not have happened).
> 
>  - We decide usage-counts need their own type (urgh, more...).
> 
>  - None of the above, we keep i_count as is and let people hunt and convert
>    actual refcounts.

The last one; if some object has non-trivial lifetime rules, don't try to
shoehorn it into refcount_t.  VFS-side the same goes for
struct dentry		(non-trivial lifetime and locking rules)
struct mount		(per-CPU fun, barriers, etc.)
struct super_block	(non-trivial lifecycle and lifetime rules)

I'm not sure if struct file is a good match, BTW - net/unix/garbage.c would
be one place in need of a careful looking into if we went for it.

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