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Date:   Mon, 6 Mar 2017 17:17:45 +0530
From:   Vignesh R <vigneshr@...com>
To:     Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@...e-electrons.com>
CC:     Frode Isaksen <fisaksen@...libre.com>,
        Mark Brown <broonie@...nel.org>,
        Cyrille Pitchen <cyrille.pitchen@...el.com>,
        Richard Weinberger <richard@....at>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Brian Norris <computersforpeace@...il.com>,
        Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@...il.com>,
        "linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org" <linux-mtd@...ts.infradead.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-omap@...r.kernel.org" <linux-omap@...r.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 2/2] mtd: devices: m25p80: Enable spi-nor bounce
 buffer support



On Thursday 02 March 2017 07:59 PM, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Mar 2017 19:24:43 +0530
> Vignesh R <vigneshr@...com> wrote:
> 
>>>>>>     
>>>>> Not really, I am debugging another issue with UBIFS on DRA74 EVM (ARM
>>>>> cortex-a15) wherein pages allocated by vmalloc are in highmem region
>>>>> that are not addressable using 32 bit addresses and is backed by LPAE.
>>>>> So, a 32 bit DMA cannot access these buffers at all.
>>>>> When dma_map_sg() is called to map these pages by spi_map_buf() the
>>>>> physical address is just truncated to 32 bit in pfn_to_dma() (as part of
>>>>> dma_map_sg() call). This results in random crashes as DMA starts
>>>>> accessing random memory during SPI read.
>>>>>
>>>>> IMO, there may be more undiscovered caveat with using dma_map_sg() for
>>>>> non kmalloc'd buffers and its better that spi-nor starts handling these
>>>>> buffers instead of relying on spi_map_msg() and working around every
>>>>> time something pops up.
>>>>>  
>>>> Ok, I had a closer look at the SPI framework, and it seems there's a
>>>> way to tell to the core that a specific transfer cannot use DMA
>>>> (->can_dam()). The first thing you should do is fix the spi-davinci
>>>> driver:
>>>>
>>>> 1/ implement ->can_dma()
>>>> 2/ patch davinci_spi_bufs() to take the decision to do DMA or not on a
>>>>    per-xfer basis and not on a per-device basis
>>>>  
>>
>> This would lead to poor perf defeating entire purpose of using DMA.
> 
> Hm, that's not really true. For all cases where you have a DMA-able
> buffer it would still use DMA. For other cases (like the UBI+SPI-NOR
> case we're talking about here), yes, it will be slower, but slower is
> still better than buggy.
> So, in any case, I think the fixes pointed by Frode are needed.
> 
Yes, but still bounce buffer does help in perf improvement over PIO.

>>
>>>> Then we can start thinking about how to improve perfs by using a bounce
>>>> buffer for large transfers, but I'm still not sure this should be done
>>>> at the MTD level...  
>>
>> If its at SPI level, then I guess each individual drivers which cannot
>> handle vmalloc'd buffers will have to implement bounce buffer logic.
> 
> Well, that's my opinion. The only one that can decide when to do
> PIO, when to use DMA or when to use a bounce buffer+DMA is the SPI
> controller.
> If you move this logic to the SPI NOR layer, you'll have to guess what
> is the best approach, and I fear the decision will be wrong on some
> platforms (leading to perf degradation).
> 
> You're mentioning code duplication in each SPI controller, I agree,
> this is far from ideal, but what you're suggesting is not necessarily
> better. What if another SPI user starts passing vmalloc-ed buffers to
> the SPI controller? You'll have to duplicate the bounce-buffer logic in
> this user as well.
> 

Hmm... Yes, there are ways to by pass SPI core.

>>
>> Or SPI core can be extended in a way similar to this RFC. That is, SPI
>> master driver will set a flag to request SPI core to use of bounce
>> buffer for vmalloc'd buffers. And spi_map_buf() just uses bounce buffer
>> in case buf does not belong to kmalloc region based on the flag.
> 
> That's a better approach IMHO. Note that the decision should not only
> be based on the buffer type, but also on the transfer length and/or
> whether the controller supports transferring non physically contiguous
> buffers.
> 
> Maybe we should just extend ->can_dma() to let the core know if it
> should use a bounce buffer.
> 

Yes, this is definitely needed. ->can_dma() currently returns bool. We
need a better interface that returns different error codes for
restriction on buffer length vs buffer type (I dont see any appropriate
error codes) or make ->can_dma() return flag asking for bounce buffer.
SPI controller drivers may use cache_is_*() and virt_addr_valid() to
decide whether or not request bounce buffer.

> Regarding the bounce buffer allocation logic, I'm not sure how it
> should be done. The SPI user should be able to determine a max transfer
> len (at least this is the case for SPI NORs) and inform the SPI layer
> about this boundary so that the SPI core can allocate a bounce buffer
> of this size. But we also have limitations at the SPI master level
> (->max_transfer_size(), ->max_message_size()).
> 

Again, I guess only SPI controller can suggest the appropriate size of
bounce buffer based on its internal constraints and use cases that its
known to support.



-- 
Regards
Vignesh

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