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Date:   Mon, 13 Mar 2017 06:11:12 +1000
From:   Dave Airlie <airlied@...il.com>
To:     Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:     Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@...el.com>,
        Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@...ux.intel.com>,
        "intel-gfx@...ts.freedesktop.org" <intel-gfx@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        stable@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: The i915 stable patch marking is totally broken

On 13 March 2017 at 05:44, Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Hi Daniel and Jani and other members of the i915-commit-cabal,
>
> I've mentioned this a few times to Daniel in the past (like at the last
> kernel summit), but the way you all are handling the tagging of patches
> for inclusion in stable kernel releases is totally broken and causing me
> no end of headaches.
>
> It's due to your "you have a branch, you have a branch, you all have a
> branch!" model of development.  You have patches that end up flowing in
> to Linus's trees multiple times for different releases.  Now git is
> smart enough to handle most of this, and you end up doing a lot of
> hand-fixing for other merge issues, but when it comes to doing the
> stable kernel work, none of that means squat.  All I get to see is when
> a patch lands in Linus's tree, and if that patch has a "cc: stable@"
> marking, then I look at it.
>
> But, when a patch hits Linus through multiple branches, that means I see
> it multiple times, usually months apart in timeframe.  This is
> especially bad during the -rc1 merge window when all of the old work you
> all did for the past 3 months hits Linus, which includes all of the old
> bugfixes that were already in the previous kernel release.
>
> I think there were over 25 different patches in -rc1 that hit this
> issue.  Maybe more, maybe less, I don't know, I'm giving up at this
> point, I wasted over 2 hours trying to figure out a way to do this in an
> automated way, or by hand, or something else to deal with all of these
> rejections or "fuzz merge" which really was a duplicate.
>
> And the joy of your "cherry-picked from 12345..." messages, with git
> commit ids that are no where to be found in Linus's tree at all, is
> totally annoying as well, why even have this if it doesn't mean
> anything?  I sure can't use it.
>
> Not to mention all of the build-breakages, and normal "fails to apply"
> that you all end up with, your driver subsystem has the largest instance
> of those as well, and build-breakages are the worst, as they cause my
> process to come to a screeching halt while I have to bisect to find the
> broken patch.  Given the lack of patches that people actually send me
> when I send in the "FAILED" emails, I'm guessing that you all don't care
> that much about stable kernels either, which is fine, as again, I'm
> giving up on your driver.
>
> So, either you all only mark a patch _ONCE_.  Or come up with some way
> for me to determine, in an automated way that a patch is already in
> Linus's older release, or just don't mark anything and send me a
> hand-curated list of git commit ids, or patches in mbox form (like DaveM
> does), or something else you all come up with.  What is happening now is
> not working at all, and as of now, I'm going to just drop all i915
> patches with a cc: stable marking on the floor.
>
> Congrats on being the first subsystem that I've had to blacklist from my
> stable patch workflow :(
>
> greg "35k feet above India and grumpy" k-h

What happened to, I won't ask subsystem maintainers to do any extra work :-)

But I'm not sure why the model doesn't break for others, surely some subsystems
realise after committing patches to -next, they really are more urgent
so put them
into a -fixes pull earlier, but can't rebase -next. The cherry-pick tag should
have the info vs the -next tree that Linus is pulling in the next merge window,
it would be a bit difficult to do a cherry-pick to -fixes from a
branch Linus has
already pulled.

I don't think there is anything incorrect in the model, and it
certainly has nothing
to do with "the branch model" or whatever you are alluding to there.
The branches
are pretty simple, a -next and a -fixes with occasional -next-fixes
for merge window,
is it just the sheer number of patches that go to -next and get pulled
into -fixes that
overwhelms you?

Dave.

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