Message-ID: <20170320050009.GA20783@jelly>
Date:   Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:00:10 +1000
From:   Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@...-t.net>
To:     Andrew Duggan <aduggan@...aptics.com>
Cc:     Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@...il.com>,
        Jason Ekstrand <jason@...kstrand.net>,
        Cameron Gutman <aicommander@...il.com>,
        Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@...hat.com>,
        Thorsten Leemhuis <linux@...mhuis.info>,
        Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>, Nick Dyer <nick@...anahar.org>,
        Christopher Heiny <cheiny@...aptics.com>,
        linux-input <linux-input@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Synaptics RMI4 touchpad regression in 4.11-rc1

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:23:36PM -0700, Andrew Duggan wrote:
> On 03/17/2017 09:57 AM, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 15, 2017 at 2:19 AM, Andrew Duggan <aduggan@...aptics.com> wrote:
> > > On 03/13/2017 10:10 PM, Cameron Gutman wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On 03/13/2017 06:35 PM, Andrew Duggan wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 03/13/2017 06:15 AM, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> > > > > > [Resending, forgot to add Jiri in CC]
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Mar 13 2017 or thereabouts, Benjamin Tissoires wrote:
> > > > > > > On Mar 13 2017 or thereabouts, Thorsten Leemhuis wrote:
> > > > > > > > Lo! On 12.03.2017 02:55, Cameron Gutman wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Beginning in 4.11-rc1, it looks like RMI4 is binding to my XPS 13
> > > > > > > > > 9343's
> > > > > > > > > Synaptics touchpad and dropping some errors into dmesg. Here are the
> > > > > > > > > messages that seem RMI-related:
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > rmi4_f34 rmi4-00.fn34: rmi_f34v7_probe: Unrecognized bootloader
> > > > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > > rmi4_f34: probe of rmi4-00.fn34 failed with error -22
> > > > > > > > > rmi4_f01 rmi4-00.fn01: found RMI device, manufacturer: Synaptics,
> > > > > > > > > product: TM3038-001, fw id: 1832324
> > > > > > > > > input: Synaptics TM3038-001 as
> > > > > > > > > /devices/pci0000:00/INT3433:00/i2c-7/i2c-DLL0665:01/0018:06CB:76AD.0001/input/input19
> > > > > > > > > hid-rmi 0018:06CB:76AD.0001: input,hidraw0: I2C HID v1.00 Mouse
> > > > > > > > > [DLL0665:01 06CB:76AD] on i2c-DLL0665:01
> > > > > > > > FWIW, I get this on my XPS 13 DE (9360) with 4.11-rc1:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > input: SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad as
> > > > > > > > /devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input6
> > > > > > > > rmi4_f34 rmi4-00.fn34: rmi_f34v7_probe: Unrecognized bootloader
> > > > > > > > version
> > > > > > > > rmi4_f34: probe of rmi4-00.fn34 failed with error -22
> > > > > > > > rmi4_f01 rmi4-00.fn01: found RMI device, manufacturer: Synaptics,
> > > > > > > > product: TM3038-003, fw id: 2375007
> > > > > > > > input: Synaptics TM3038-003 as
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:15.1/i2c_designware.1/i2c-8/i2c-DLL075B:01/0018:06CB:76AF.0001/input/input20
> > > > > > > > hid-rmi 0018:06CB:76AF.0001: input,hidraw0: I2C HID v1.00 Mouse
> > > > > > > > [DLL075B:01 06CB:76AF] on i2c-DLL075B:01
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > […]
> > > > > > > > > Compared to hid-multitouch, the RMI stack seems to have completely
> > > > > > > > > broken
> > > > > > > > > palm rejection and introduced some random jumpiness during fine
> > > > > > > > > pointing
> > > > > > > > > motions. I don't know if these issues are caused by the above errors
> > > > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > are a separate issue.
> > > > > The error about the bootloader version not being recognized just means
> > > > > that updating the firmware is not supported on this touchpad. It is only the
> > > > > F34 firmware update functionality which is failing to load. The palm
> > > > > rejection and jumps are not related to this error.
> > > > > 
> > > > Maybe that code path should be changed to not make as much noise when it
> > > > runs
> > > > on known unsupported hardware. Something like the attached patch?
> > > > 
> > > > > Looking at how hid-multitouch handles palms it looks like palms should
> > > > > not be reported as active when calling input_mt_report_slot_state(). I'm
> > > > > setting the tool type to MT_TOOL_PALM when the firmware determines that a
> > > > > contact is a palm. But, that does not seem to be sufficient enough to have
> > > > > the palms filtered out. After some quick testing it looks like the change
> > > > > below will restore palm rejection similar to that provided by
> > > > > hid-multitouch.
> > > > > 
> > > > It looks like your email client ate the tabs, but if I apply the change
> > > > myself it seems to fix the palm rejection regression for me.
> > > > 
> > > > Tested-by: Cameron Gutman <aicommander@...il.com>
> > > 
> > > Sorry, I was short on time and just copied the diff into the email. I'll
> > > submit a proper patch soon with your tested-by included. Thanks for testing.
> > > 
> > > 
> > I just pointed out this patch (well the actual submission) to Jason
> > (Cc-ed). Given that there is no proper handling of MT_TOOL_PALM yet in
> > userspace, I thought it was the easiest way.
> > However, it seems that this doesn't enhance the jumps and just make it worse.
> 
> I was assuming that the jumps and palm rejection where two separate issues.
> But, the palm rejection patch makes things worse?
> 
> > Is there anything we can do to fix it (besides temporary disabling the
> > automatic loading of hid-rmi)?
> 
> I do not have a fix for the jumps yet. My next step is to file a bug against
> libinput or the kernel. I used evemu-record to capture a log with jumps, but
> when I play it back with a different userspace input stack with an older
> version of libinput I do not see the jumps. I see the jumps on Fedora 25
> with libinput 1.6.3 vs Ubuntu 16.10 with libinput 1.4.3 with X). Or at least
> the jumps are not as significant. But, its possible there is an issue with
> how the events are being reported which is incorrect and confusing libinput.
> The X and Y coordinates being reported by the firmware seem correct and I
> haven't found a problem yet. I thought a bug would be a better place to
> collect evemu-record logs and compare.

fwiw, there's a fairly easy way to quickly check libinput for changes and
that's by having the gtk3-headers installed at configure time and then
running sudo ./tools/event-gui to visualize the movement (Esc quits)

That tool uses libinput data directly to draw pointer motion etc, so it's a
way to quickly bisect to where changes happen. Without anything else to go
on, I'd say it's the new touchpad acceleration code from libinput 1.5 - the
max accel factor has changed so depending on the speed of the jumps, you can
now get stronger pointer movement.

Cheers,
   Peter
 

> Hopefully, this will end up being a quick fix in the kernel and we can get
> it applied to 4.11 without having to hold off on disabling hid-rmi for PTPs.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> > Cheers,
> > Benjamin
> > 
> > > 
> > > > > > > > Just to confirm: I noticed "jumpiness during fine pointing motions" as
> > > > > > > > well since switching to 4.11-rc.
> > > > > One of my test systems is a XPS 13 9343 and I have not really seen any
> > > > > jumpiness. But, based on the data I am seeing that if I lift my finger and
> > > > > place it again in a short period of time the first event or so will be at
> > > > > the location of the previous contact. Then it will switch over to the
> > > > > current location. When switching over to hid-multitouch I was unable to
> > > > > reproduce this behavior. This definitely could be the source of the jumps.
> > > > > 
> > > > The jumpiness definitely happens without lifting my finger, but I'm
> > > > willing
> > > > to test any patch you think would improve the situation. Moving one finger
> > > > slowly in a figure-8 across my touchpad shows the issue clearly for me.
> > > > The
> > > > small variations in speed of my finger due to the friction on the trackpad
> > > > get magnified to relatively large jumpy pointer movements on screen. It
> > > > seems much more noticeable in diagonal movements than completely vertical
> > > > or horizontal movements.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Cameron
> > > > 
> > > > ---
> > > > diff --git a/drivers/input/rmi4/rmi_f34v7.c
> > > > b/drivers/input/rmi4/rmi_f34v7.c
> > > > index 56c6c39..1291d9a 100644
> > > > --- a/drivers/input/rmi4/rmi_f34v7.c
> > > > +++ b/drivers/input/rmi4/rmi_f34v7.c
> > > > @@ -1369,9 +1369,9 @@ int rmi_f34v7_probe(struct f34_data *f34)
> > > >          } else if (f34->bootloader_id[1] == 7) {
> > > >                  f34->bl_version = 7;
> > > >          } else {
> > > > -               dev_err(&f34->fn->dev, "%s: Unrecognized bootloader
> > > > version\n",
> > > > -                               __func__);
> > > > -               return -EINVAL;
> > > > +               dev_info(&f34->fn->dev, "%s: Unsupported bootloader
> > > > version: %u\n",
> > > > +                               __func__, f34->bootloader_id[1]);
> > > > +               return -ENODEV;
> > > >          }
> > > >          memset(&f34->v7.blkcount, 0x00, sizeof(f34->v7.blkcount));
> > > 
> > > 
> 

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