Message-ID: <20170320231840.385ba067@t450s.home>
Date:   Mon, 20 Mar 2017 23:18:40 -0600
From:   Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>
To:     "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>
Cc:     Cao jin <caoj.fnst@...fujitsu.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        kvm@...r.kernel.org, qemu-devel@...gnu.org,
        izumi.taku@...fujitsu.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] vfio pci: kernel support of error recovery only for non
 fatal error

On Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:32:33 +0200
"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 08:50:39PM +0800, Cao jin wrote:
> > Sorry for late.
> > 
> > On 03/14/2017 06:06 AM, Alex Williamson wrote:  
> > > On Mon, 27 Feb 2017 15:28:43 +0800
> > > Cao jin <caoj.fnst@...fujitsu.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > >> 0. What happens now (PCIE AER only)
> > >>    Fatal errors cause a link reset.
> > >>    Non fatal errors don't.
> > >>    All errors stop the VM eventually, but not immediately
> > >>    because it's detected and reported asynchronously.
> > >>    Interrupts are forwarded as usual.
> > >>    Correctable errors are not reported to guest at all.
> > >>    Note: PPC EEH is different. This focuses on AER.  
> > > 
> > > Perhaps you're only focusing on AER, but don't the error handlers we're
> > > using support both AER and EEH generically?  I don't think we can
> > > completely disregard how this affects EEH behavior, if at all.
> > >   
> > 
> > After taking a rough look at the EEH,  find that EEH always feed
> > error_detected with pci_channel_io_frozen, from perspective of
> > error_detected, EEH is not affected.  
> > 
> > I am not sure about a question: when assign devices in spapr host,
> > should all functions/devices in a PE be bound to vfio? I am kind of
> > confused about the relationship between a PE & a tce iommu group
> >   
> > >>
> > >> 1. Correctable errors
> > >>    There is no need to report these to guest. So let's not.  
> > > 
> > > What does this patch change to make this happen?  I don't see
> > > anything.  Was this always the case?  No change?
> > >   
> > 
> > yes, no change on correctable error.
> >   
> > >>
> > >> 2. Fatal errors
> > >>    It's not easy to handle them gracefully since link reset
> > >>    is needed. As a first step, let's use the existing mechanism
> > >>    in that case.  
> > > 
> > > Ok, so no change here either.
> > >   
> > >> 2. Non-fatal errors
> > >>    Here we could make progress by reporting them to guest
> > >>    and have guest handle them.  
> > > 
> > > In practice, what actual errors do we expect userspace to see as
> > > non-fatal errors? It would be useful for the commit log to describe
> > > the actual benefit we're going to see by splitting out non-fatal errors
> > > for the user (not always a guest) to see separately.  Justify that this
> > > is actually useful.
> > >   
> > >>
> > >>    Issues:
> > >>    a. this behaviour should only be enabled with new userspace,
> > >>       old userspace should work without changes.
> > >>
> > >>       Suggestion: One way to address this would be to add a new eventfd
> > >>       non_fatal_err_trigger. If not set, invoke err_trigger.  
> > > 
> > > This outline format was really more useful for Michael to try to
> > > generate discussion, for a commit log, I'd much rather see a definitive
> > > statement such as:
> > > 
> > >  "To maintain backwards compatibility with userspace, non-fatal errors
> > >  will continue to trigger via the existing error interrupt index if a
> > >  non-fatal signaling mechanism has not been registered."
> > >   
> > >>    b. drivers are supposed to stop MMIO when error is reported,
> > >>       if vm keeps going, we will keep doing MMIO/config.
> > >>
> > >>       Suggestion 1: ignore this. vm stop happens much later when
> > >>       userspace runs anyway, so we are not making things much worse.
> > >>
> > >>       Suggestion 2: try to stop MMIO/config, resume on resume call
> > >>
> > >>       Patch below implements Suggestion 1.
> > >>
> > >>       Note that although this is really against the documentation, which
> > >>       states error_detected() is the point at which the driver should quiesce
> > >>       the device and not touch it further (until diagnostic poking at
> > >>       mmio_enabled or full access at resume callback).
> > >>
> > >>       Fixing this won't be easy. However, this is not a regression.
> > >>
> > >>       Also note this does nothing about interrupts, documentation
> > >>       suggests returning IRQ_NONE until reset.
> > >>       Again, not a regression.  
> > > 
> > > So again, no change here.  I'm not sure what this adds to the commit
> > > log, perhaps we can reference this as a link to Michael's original
> > > proposal.
> > >    
> > >>    c. PF driver might detect that function is completely broken,
> > >>       if vm keeps going, we will keep doing MMIO/config.
> > >>
> > >>       Suggestion 1: ignore this. vm stop happens much later when
> > >>       userspace runs anyway, so we are not making things much worse.
> > >>
> > >>       Suggestion 2: detect this and invoke err_trigger to stop VM.
> > >>
> > >>       Patch below implements Suggestion 2.  
> > > 
> > > This needs more description and seems a bit misleading.  This patch
> > > adds a slot_reset handler, such that if the slot is reset, we notify
> > > the user, essentially promoting the non-fatal error to fatal.  But what
> > > condition gets us to this point?  AIUI, AER is a voting scheme and if
> > > any driver affected says they need a reset, everyone gets a reset.  So
> > > the PF driver we're talking about here is not vfio-pci and it's not the
> > > user, the user has no way to signal that the device is completely
> > > broken, this only handles the case of other collateral devices with
> > > native host drivers that might signal this, right?
> > >   
> > 
> > Yes, same understanding as you, if I don't miss something from michael.  
> > > It seems like this is where this patch has the greatest exposure to
> > > regressions.  If we take the VM use case, previously we could have a
> > > non-AER aware guest and the hypervisor could stop the VM on all
> > > errors.  Now the hypervisor might support the distinction between fatal
> > > and non-fatal, but the guest may still not have AER support.  That
> > > doesn't imply a problem with this approach, the user (hypervisor) would
> > > be at fault for any difference in handling in that case.
> > >   
> >   
> > >>  
> > >> +static pci_ers_result_t vfio_pci_aer_slot_reset(struct pci_dev *pdev)
> > >> +{
> > >> +	struct vfio_pci_device *vdev;
> > >> +	struct vfio_device *device;
> > >> +	static pci_ers_result_t err = PCI_ERS_RESULT_NONE;
> > >> +
> > >> +	device = vfio_device_get_from_dev(&pdev->dev);
> > >> +	if (!device)
> > >> +		goto err_dev;
> > >> +
> > >> +	vdev = vfio_device_data(device);
> > >> +	if (!vdev)
> > >> +		goto err_data;
> > >> +
> > >> +	mutex_lock(&vdev->igate);
> > >> +
> > >> +	if (vdev->err_trigger)
> > >> +		eventfd_signal(vdev->err_trigger, 1);  
> > > 
> > > What about the case where the user has not registered for receiving
> > > non-fatal errors, now we send an error signal on both error_detected
> > > and slot_reset.  Is that useful/desirable?
> > >   
> > 
> > Not desirable, but seems not harmful, guest user will stop anyway. How
> > to avoid this case gracefully seems not easy.  
> 
> I actually see a clean way to do this.
> 
> Let's add yet another eventfd to trigger
> when hosts resets the device itself.  vdev->host_reset ?
> 
> Users can use the same one as err_trigger if they like,
> it will be up to them.
> 
> Alex?

Sure, the UNIX way, throw more file descriptors at the problem.  Kind
of ugly, but I don't have a cleaner solution in mind.  "host_reset"
implies something completely different to me though.

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