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Message-ID: <20170328155119.qkanbuai4l6kmsq7@treble>
Date:   Tue, 28 Mar 2017 10:51:19 -0500
From:   Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
To:     Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
Cc:     rkrcmar@...hat.com, x86@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        kvm@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kvm/x86/vmx: report KVM_SYSTEM_EVENT_CRASH on triple
 fault

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 02:39:34PM +0200, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> 
> 
> On 28/03/2017 13:46, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 03:51:01AM -0400, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
> >>
> >>> While debugging a kernel issue, I found that QEMU always reboots when an
> >>> x86 triple fault occurs, which complicates debugging.  QEMU and libvirt
> >>> have a facility for creating a dump when KVM reports
> >>> KVM_SYSTEM_EVENT_CRASH.  So change the VMX triple fault handler to do
> >>> that.  This gives user space the ability to decide whether to dump,
> >>> pause, shutdown, or reboot.
> >>
> >> You probably want QEMU's -no-reboot option.
> >>
> >> Triple faults are already reported to userspace with KVM_EXIT_SHUTDOWN,
> >> and it's up to userspace to decide what to do with it.  This patch cannot
> >> be applied, because there are guests that do a triple-fault intentionally
> >> in order to reset the machine.
> > 
> > Ok.  Any idea how to force libvirt to create a dump?  It has a
> > 'coredump-destroy' option, but that only seems to work with 'on_crash':
> > 
> >   https://libvirt.org/formatdomain.html#elementsEvents
> 
> Probably QEMU, when invoked with -no-shutdown -no-reboot, should treat
> KVM_EXIT_SHUTDOWN as a panic.  I can have a go at it, but note that QEMU
> is now in hard freeze for the next release, so it will take a while.
> 
> However you're using libvirt and it doesn't use -no-reboot.
> 
> It's probably possible for libvirt to use -no-reboot more often.  The
> price would be that if libvirtd crashes and a VM wants to reset, then
> the VM gets stuck.
> 
> Alternatively, we could generalize -no-shutdown and -no-reboot to
> something like:
> 
>   -action reset=stop|restart|quit,
>           poweroff=stop|quit,
>           triple-fault=stop|panic|restart|quit
> 
> and teach libvirt about it.  The current semantics map relatively easily
> to the new option:
> 
>                           | reset       | poweroff   | triple-fault
> --------------------------+-------------+------------+-------------------
> no option                 | restart     | quit       | restart
> -no-shutdown              | restart     | stop       | restart
> -no-reboot                | quit        | quit       | quit
> -no-shutdown -no-reboot   | stop        | stop       | stop (panic?)

I like your new option proposal.  It makes a lot more sense, at least
from the perspective of a novice user (me).

Having some kind of framework in place for dealing with triple faults --
either pausing or dumping -- would be very useful.  Right now I can't
even get libvirt to pause when it happens.

-- 
Josh

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