linux-kernel - Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention

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Message-ID: <3f1f1632-ae64-34f7-70ef-d4f8091cd5c1@list.ru>
Date:   Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:10:59 +0300
From:   Stas Sergeev <stsp@...t.ru>
To:     Ricardo Neri <ricardo.neri-calderon@...ux.intel.com>
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        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
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Subject: Re: [v6 PATCH 00/21] x86: Enable User-Mode Instruction Prevention

30.03.2017 08:14, Ricardo Neri пишет:
>>>> But at least dosemu implements it, so probably it is needed.
>>> Right.
>>>
>>>> Of course if it is used by one of 100 DOS progs, then there
>>>> is an option to just add its support to dosemu2 and pretend
>>>> the compatibility problems did not exist. :)
>>> Do you mean relaying the GP fault to dosemu instead of trapping it and
>>> emulating it in the kernel?
>> Yes, that would be optimal if this does not severely break
>> the current setups. If we can find out that smsw is not in
>> the real use, we can probably do exactly that.
>> But other
>> instructions are not in real use in v86 for sure, so I
>> wouldn't be adding the explicit test-cases to the kernel
>> that will make you depend on some particular behaviour
>> that no one may need.
>> My objection was that we shouldn't
>> write tests before we know exactly how we want this to work.
> OK, if only SMSW is used then I'll keep the emulation for SMSW only.
In fact, smsw has an interesting property, which is that
no one will ever want to disable its in-kernel emulation
to provide its own.
So while I'll try to estimate its usage, emulating it in kernel
will not be that problematic in either case.
As for protected mode, if wine only needs sgdt/sidt, then
again, no one will want to disable its emulation. Not the
case with sldt, but AFAICS wine doesn't need sldt, and so
we can leave sldt without a fixups. Is my understanding
correct?
In this case, I suppose, we are very well on a way to avoid
the extra syscalls to toggle the emulation features.