linux-kernel - Re: [RFC 0/8] Copy Offload with Peer-to-Peer PCI Memory

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Message-ID: <6e732d6a-9baf-1768-3e9c-f6c887a836b2@deltatee.com>
Date:   Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:47:50 -0600
From:   Logan Gunthorpe <logang@...tatee.com>
To:     Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@...el.com>
Cc:     Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@...nel.org>,
        Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@...idianresearch.com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        Sagi Grimberg <sagi@...mberg.me>,
        "James E.J. Bottomley" <jejb@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        "Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@...cle.com>,
        Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
        Steve Wise <swise@...ngridcomputing.com>,
        Stephen Bates <sbates@...thlin.com>,
        Max Gurtovoy <maxg@...lanox.com>,
        Keith Busch <keith.busch@...el.com>, linux-pci@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-scsi <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-nvme@...ts.infradead.org, linux-rdma@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@...1.01.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Jerome Glisse <jglisse@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/8] Copy Offload with Peer-to-Peer PCI Memory

On 16/04/17 09:44 AM, Dan Williams wrote:
> I think we very much want the dma mapping layer to be in the way.
> It's the only sane semantic we have to communicate this translation.

Yes, I wasn't proposing bypassing that layer, per say. I just meant that
the layer would, in the end, have to return the address without any
translations.

> The difference is that there was nothing fundamental in the core
> design of pmem + DAX that prevented other archs from growing pmem
> support. THP and memory hotplug existed on other architectures and
> they just need to plug in their arch-specific enabling. p2p support
> needs the same starting point of something more than one architecture
> can plug into, and handling the bus address offset case needs to be
> incorporated into the design.

I don't think there's a difference there either. There'd have been
nothing fundamental in our core design that says offsets couldn't have
been added later.

> pmem + dax did not change the meaning of what a dma_addr_t is, p2p does.

I don't think p2p actually really changes the meaning of dma_addr_t
either. We are just putting addresses in there that weren't used
previously. Our RFC makes no changes to anything even remotely related
to dma_addr_t.

> I think you need to give other archs a chance to support this with a
> design that considers the offset case as a first class citizen rather
> than an afterthought.

I'll consider this. Given the fact I can use your existing
get_dev_pagemap infrastructure to look up the p2pmem device this
probably isn't as hard as I thought it would be anyway (we probably
don't even need a page flag). We'd just have lookup the dev_pagemap,
test if it's a p2pmem device, and if so, call a p2pmem_dma_map function
which could apply the offset or do any other arch specific logic (if
necessary).

Logan