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Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2017 11:22:55 +0300
From: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@...edi.com>
To: "Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@...il.com>
Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@...il.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>,
Mark Fasheh <mark.fasheh@...cle.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Michel Lespinasse <walken@...gle.com>,
linux-man <linux-man@...r.kernel.org>,
lkml <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Why mmap(MAP_POPULATE | MAP_NONBLOCK) is needed (Re: [patch]
mmap.2: Add link to commit which broke MAP_POPULATE | MAP_NONBLOCK to be
noop)
Michael, there are no replies, but I still think it is better we apply
the following patch to man-pages. Thanks.
---- 8< ----
From: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@...edi.com>
Subject: [patch] mmap.2: Add link to commit which broke MAP_POPULATE | MAP_NONBLOCK to be noop
Signed-off-by: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@...edi.com>
---
man2/mmap.2 | 1 +
1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
diff --git a/man2/mmap.2 b/man2/mmap.2
index 96875e486..f6fd56523 100644
--- a/man2/mmap.2
+++ b/man2/mmap.2
@@ -300,6 +300,7 @@ Don't perform read-ahead:
create page tables entries only for pages
that are already present in RAM.
Since Linux 2.6.23, this flag causes
+.\" commit 54cb8821de07f2ffcd28c380ce9b93d5784b40d7
.BR MAP_POPULATE
to do nothing.
One day, the combination of
--
2.11.0
---- 8< ----
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:06:44PM +0300, Kirill Smelkov wrote:
> Michael, first of all thanks for feedback.
>
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 08:38:50PM +0100, Michael Kerrisk (man-pages) wrote:
> > [CC += Michel Lespinasse <walken@...gle.com>]
> >
> > Kirill,
> >
> > I need some help here.
> >
> > On 20 March 2017 at 16:59, Kirill Smelkov <kirr@...edi.com> wrote:
> > > On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 10:40:10PM +0300, Kirill Smelkov wrote:
> > >> Signed-off-by: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@...edi.com>
> > >> ---
> > >> man2/mmap.2 | 1 +
> > >> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
> > >>
> > >> diff --git a/man2/mmap.2 b/man2/mmap.2
> > >> index 96875e486..f6fd56523 100644
> > >> --- a/man2/mmap.2
> > >> +++ b/man2/mmap.2
> > >> @@ -300,6 +300,7 @@ Don't perform read-ahead:
> > >> create page tables entries only for pages
> > >> that are already present in RAM.
> > >> Since Linux 2.6.23, this flag causes
> > >> +.\" commit 54cb8821de07f2ffcd28c380ce9b93d5784b40d7
> > >> .BR MAP_POPULATE
> > >> to do nothing.
> > >> One day, the combination of
> > >
> > > Please also find below benchmark which explains why
> > >
> > > mmap(MAP_POPULATE | MAP_NONBLOCK)
> > >
> > > is actually needed.
> >
> > Okay -- clearly things have changed (but I received no man-pages
> > patch).
>
> Strange it was sent. Let me show it once again here (git am -s):
>
> ---- 8< ----
> From: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@...edi.com>
> Subject: [patch] mmap.2: Add link to commit which broke MAP_POPULATE | MAP_NONBLOCK to be noop
>
> Signed-off-by: Kirill Smelkov <kirr@...edi.com>
> ---
> man2/mmap.2 | 1 +
> 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>
> diff --git a/man2/mmap.2 b/man2/mmap.2
> index 96875e486..f6fd56523 100644
> --- a/man2/mmap.2
> +++ b/man2/mmap.2
> @@ -300,6 +300,7 @@ Don't perform read-ahead:
> create page tables entries only for pages
> that are already present in RAM.
> Since Linux 2.6.23, this flag causes
> +.\" commit 54cb8821de07f2ffcd28c380ce9b93d5784b40d7
> .BR MAP_POPULATE
> to do nothing.
> One day, the combination of
> --
> 2.11.0
> ---- 8< ----
>
>
> > What do you believe the man page should now say.
>
> What man page says today correctly describes current behaviour:
>
> ---- 8< ----
> MAP_NONBLOCK (since Linux 2.5.46)
> This flag is meaningful only in conjunction with MAP_POPULATE. Don't perform read-
> ahead: create page tables entries only for pages that are already present in RAM. Since
> Linux 2.6.23, this flag causes MAP_POPULATE to do nothing. One day, the combination of
> MAP_POPULATE and MAP_NONBLOCK may be reimplemented.
> ---- 8< ----
>
> For now I've just added reference to commit corresponding to "Since Linux
> 2.6.23, this flag causes MAP_POPULATE to do nothing."
>
>
> > Or, perhaps we can ask Michel:
> >
> > commit bebeb3d68b24bb4132d452c5707fe321208bcbcd
> > Author: Michel Lespinasse <walken@...gle.com>
> > Date: Fri Feb 22 16:32:37 2013 -0800
> >
> > The above commit (which went into Linux 3.9) seems to be the source of
> > the change.
> >
> > Michael, can you suggest to us what the mmap() man page should now say
> > about MAP_POPULATE?
>
> It is good to have feedback from relevant people, but as my patch to
> man-pages says, if I understand it correctly, the original patch which
> changed behaviour is this:
>
> ---- 8< ----
> commit 54cb8821de07f2ffcd28c380ce9b93d5784b40d7
> Author: Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>
> Date: Thu Jul 19 01:46:59 2007 -0700
>
> mm: merge populate and nopage into fault (fixes nonlinear)
>
> ...
>
> After this patch, MAP_NONBLOCK no longer sets up ptes for pages present in <-- NOTE here
> pagecache. Seems like a fringe functionality anyway.
>
> ...
>
> [akpm@...ux-foundation.org: cleanup]
> [randy.dunlap@...cle.com: doc. fixes for readahead]
> [akpm@...ux-foundation.org: build fix]
> Signed-off-by: Nick Piggin <npiggin@...e.de>
> Signed-off-by: Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@...cle.com>
> Cc: Mark Fasheh <mark.fasheh@...cle.com>
> Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
> ---- 8< ----
>
> Adding all people involved to Cc - please have a look at quoted benchmark below
> which justifies usage of mmap(MAP_POPULATE | MAP_NONBLOCK).
>
> Thanks,
> Kirill
>
>
> > > ---- 8< ---- (https://lab.nexedi.com/kirr/misc/blob/5a25f4ae/t_sysmmap_c.c)
> > > /* This program benchmarks pagefault time.
> > > *
> > > * Unfortunately as of 2017-Mar-20 for data in pagecache the situation is as
> > > * follows (i7-6600U, Linux 4.9.13):
> > > *
> > > * 1. minor pagefault: ~ 1200ns
> > > * (this program)
> > > *
> > > * 2. read syscall + whole page copy: ~ 215ns
> > > * (https://github.com/golang/go/issues/19563#issuecomment-287423654)
> > > *
> > > * 3. it is not possible to mmap(MAP_POPULATE | MAP_NONBLOCK) (i.e. prefault
> > > * those PTE that are already in pagecache).
> > > * ( http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-man/msg11420.html,
> > > * https://git.kernel.org/linus/54cb8821de07f2ffcd28c380ce9b93d5784b40d7 )
> > > *
> > > * 4. (Q) I'm not sure a mechanism exists in the kernel to automatically
> > > * subscribe a VMA so that when a page becomes pagecached, associated PTE is
> > > * adjusted so that programs won't need to pay minor pagefault time on
> > > * access.
> > > *
> > > * unless 3 and 4 are solved mmap unfortunately seems to be slower choice
> > > * compared to just pread.
> > > */
> > > #define _GNU_SOURCE
> > > #include <sys/types.h>
> > > #include <sys/stat.h>
> > > #include <fcntl.h>
> > > #include <unistd.h>
> > > #include <stdio.h>
> > > #include <stdlib.h>
> > > #include <sys/time.h>
> > > #include <sys/user.h>
> > > #include <sys/mman.h>
> > >
> > > // 12345678
> > > #define NITER 500000
> > >
> > > // microtime returns current time as double
> > > double microtime() {
> > > int err;
> > > struct timeval tv;
> > >
> > > err = gettimeofday(&tv, NULL);
> > > if (err == -1) {
> > > perror("gettimeofday");
> > > abort();
> > > }
> > >
> > > return tv.tv_sec + 1E-6 * tv.tv_usec;
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > > int main() {
> > > unsigned char *addr, sum = 0;
> > > int fd, err, i;
> > > size_t size;
> > > double Tstart, Tend;
> > >
> > > fd = open("/dev/shm/y.dat", O_RDWR | O_CREAT | O_TRUNC, 0666);
> > > if (fd == -1) {
> > > perror("open");
> > > abort();
> > > }
> > >
> > > size = NITER * PAGE_SIZE;
> > >
> > > err = ftruncate(fd, size);
> > > if (err == -1) {
> > > perror("ftruncate");
> > > abort();
> > > }
> > >
> > > #if 1
> > > // make sure RAM is actually allocated
> > > Tstart = microtime();
> > > err = fallocate(fd, /*mode*/0, 0, size);
> > > Tend = microtime();
> > > if (err == -1) {
> > > perror("fallocate");
> > > abort();
> > > }
> > > printf("T(fallocate):\t%.1f\t%6.1f ns / page\n", Tend - Tstart, (Tend - Tstart) * 1E9 / NITER);
> > > #endif
> > >
> > > Tstart = microtime();
> > > addr = mmap(NULL, size, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED, fd, 0);
> > > //addr = mmap(NULL, size, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED | MAP_POPULATE, fd, 0);
> > > //addr = mmap(NULL, size, PROT_READ, MAP_SHARED | MAP_POPULATE | MAP_NONBLOCK, fd, 0);
> > > if (addr == MAP_FAILED) {
> > > perror("mmap");
> > > abort();
> > > }
> > > Tend = microtime();
> > > printf("T(mmap):\t%.1f\t%6.1f ns / page\n", Tend - Tstart, (Tend - Tstart) * 1E9 / NITER);
> > >
> > > Tstart = microtime();
> > > //for (int j=0; j < 100; j++)
> > > for (i=0; i<NITER; i++) {
> > > sum += addr[i*PAGE_SIZE];
> > > }
> > > Tend = microtime();
> > >
> > > printf("T(pagefault):\t%.1f\t%6.1f ns / page\t(%i)\n", Tend - Tstart, (Tend - Tstart) * 1E9 / NITER, sum);
> > >
> > > return 0;
> > > }
> > > ---- 8< ----
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