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Message-Id: <78aa8cfe-7d7f-d621-75cd-575295e17abd@de.ibm.com>
Date:   Wed, 19 Apr 2017 15:25:47 +0200
From:   Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@...ibm.com>
To:     paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc:     Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, mingo@...nel.org,
        jiangshanlai@...il.com, dipankar@...ibm.com,
        akpm@...ux-foundation.org, mathieu.desnoyers@...icios.com,
        josh@...htriplett.org, tglx@...utronix.de, rostedt@...dmis.org,
        dhowells@...hat.com, edumazet@...gle.com, dvhart@...ux.intel.com,
        fweisbec@...il.com, oleg@...hat.com, bobby.prani@...il.com,
        marc.zyngier@....com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 tip/core/rcu 0/13] Miscellaneous fixes for 4.12

On 04/19/2017 03:22 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 01:48:08PM +0200, Christian Borntraeger wrote:
>> On 04/19/2017 01:28 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>
>>> So the thing Maz complained about is because KVM assumes
>>> synchronize_srcu() is 'free' when there is no srcu_read_lock() activity.
>>> This series 'breaks' that.
>>
>> Why is such a behaviour change not mentioned in the cover letter?
>> I could not find anything in the patch descriptions that would
>> indicate a slowdown. How much slower did it get?
> 
> It was an 8x slowdown in boot time of a guest OS running UEFI, from
> five seconds to forty seconds.  The fix restored the original boot time.
> 
> Why didn't I report the slowdown in my cover letter?  Because I didn't
> realize that I had created such a stupid bug!  ;-)
> 
> Why didn't my testing reveal the bug?  Because in my rcutorture testing,
> the buggy code runs about as fast as the original, and the fixed new code
> runs about an order of magnitude faster.  This is because rcutorture's
> performance statistics are mostly sensitive to throughput, while Marc's
> boot-time run is mostly sensitive to latency.
> 
>> But indeed, there are several places at KVM startup which have been
>> reworked to srcu since normal rcu was too slow for several usecases.
>> (Mostly registering devices and related data structures at startup,
>> basically the qemu/kvm coldplug interaction)
> 
> And here is the patch that restored Marc's boot speed.  It simply changes
> the original (buggy) fixed delay for no delay in the expedited case and
> the same fixed delay in the non-expedited case.
> 
> 							Thanx, Paul

Ok, so it was not a fundamental rework, it was just a bug.
Then nevermind :-)



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