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Message-ID: <20170506094845.djhjiugvtuvqmbpc@gmail.com>
Date:   Sat, 6 May 2017 11:48:45 +0200
From:   Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>
To:     Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de>
Cc:     Shaohua Li <shli@...com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        gang.wei@...el.com, hpa@...ux.intel.com, kernel-team@...com,
        ning.sun@...el.com, srihan@...com, alex.eydelberg@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH V2] x86/tboot: add an option to disable iommu force on


* Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de> wrote:

> Hi Ingo,
> 
> On Fri, May 05, 2017 at 08:59:20AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> > * Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de> wrote:
> 
> > > The problem solved here is that someone wants tboot for security
> > > reasons, but doesn't want the performance penalty of having the IOMMU
> > > enabled and can live with the risk of an DMA attack.
> > 
> > Yes, that makes sense - but in this case it would be far more user friendly to 
> > make it a sysctl, not a boot option. This is also much more manageable for 
> > distributions and also allows it to be more easily turned into a security policy 
> > feature.
> > 
> > New boot options should be for debugging hacks in essence - any serious hardware 
> > configuration should be done via more user-friendly methods.
> 
> I agree in general that a sysctl would be more user-friendly. But the
> problem is that enabling/disabling the IOMMU is a boot-time option that
> can't be changed at runtime.
> 
> That is because this decission defines how the bus addresses are mapped
> to physical addresses through the dma-api. When the iommu is disabled,
> it is just a 1-1 mapping, but when it is enabled a physical address
> could end up on any address in the bus address space.
> 
> Once drivers are loaded that allocate those addresses we can't change
> the mappings anymore as disabling the iommu would do.

Ok - that makes sense - I withdraw my objections:

  Acked-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>

Thanks,

	Ingo

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