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Message-ID: <20170511152718.43bcegyzdlyfztw7@treble>
Date:   Thu, 11 May 2017 10:27:18 -0500
From:   Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@...hat.com>
To:     Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>
Cc:     Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>, Jessica Yu <jeyu@...hat.com>,
        Jiri Kosina <jikos@...nel.org>,
        Miroslav Benes <mbenes@...e.cz>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        live-patching@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/3] livepatch/rcu: Warn when system consistency is
 broken in RCU code

On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 03:52:46PM +0200, Petr Mladek wrote:
> Anyway, a crazy idea is to use the livepatch consistency model instead
> of RCU to protect the function stack. The model makes sure that all
> tasks, including the idle ones, were not running any patched function
> (and their ftrace handlers) at some point. It should be safe
> but I am not sure if it is worth it.

http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/173/580/Wat.jpg

> Alternatively, it might be enough to use the probably more lightwight
> solution that is used when ftrace handlers are deregistered, I mean:
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * We need to do a hard force of sched synchronization.
> 	 * This is because we use preempt_disable() to do RCU, but
> 	 * the function tracers can be called where RCU is not watching
> 	 * (like before user_exit()). We can not rely on the RCU
> 	 * infrastructure to do the synchronization, thus we must do it
> 	 * ourselves.
> 	 */
> 	schedule_on_each_cpu(ftrace_sync);
> 
> 	/*
> 	 * When the kernel is preeptive, tasks can be preempted
> 	 * while on a ftrace trampoline. Just scheduling a task on
> 	 * a CPU is not good enough to flush them. Calling
> 	 * synchornize_rcu_tasks() will wait for those tasks to
> 	 * execute and either schedule voluntarily or enter user space.
> 	 */
> 	if (IS_ENABLED(CONFIG_PREEMPT))
> 		synchronize_rcu_tasks();

I couldn't grok the first idea, but this one sounds promising...

-- 
Josh

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