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Date:   Tue, 16 May 2017 09:14:42 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
Cc:     Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@....com>
Subject: Re: [patch 17/18] sched: Enable might_sleep() checks early

On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 09:12:03PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2017, Steven Rostedt wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 14 May 2017 20:27:33 +0200
> > Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de> wrote:
> > 
> > > might_sleep() checks are enabled after the boot process is done. That hides
> > > bugs in the smp bringup and driver initialization code.
> > > 
> > > Enable it right when the scheduler starts working, i.e. when init task and
> > > kthreadd have been created and right before the idle task enables
> > > preemption.
> > 
> > Looking at commit b433c3d4549ae749, it appears that on very slow
> > machines, there is a possibility that the init task can start running.
> > Should system_state be updated before that complete() is called?
> 
> That commit is magic voodoo with exactly no effect at all.
> 
> rest_init() is called with preemption disabled and nothing can schedule
> there _before_ schedule_preempt_disabled().
> 
> Both threads - init task and kthreadd - are only created and woken up. They
> cannot get on the CPU simply because preemption is disabled. And this was
> the case back then in 2.6.35 as well.
> 
> It does not matter at all whether the machine is slow or not. That
> completion is pointless.
> 
> Peter, can you explain what the heck this patch is actually doing?

Argh.. what a shit Changelog, who wrote that crap!?

So the problem was with PREEMPT_VOLUNTARY (where, as you know,
preempt_disable() has no meaning).

Supposedly there's a might_sleep()/cond_resched() point somewhere around
there (every alloc in the fork path for example), which will happily
reschedule us.

So if we schedule to the kernel_init() task before we set kthreadd_task
we'll try and spawn kthreads and OOPS.


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