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Date:   Tue, 23 May 2017 20:56:06 +0800
From:   Icenowy Zheng <icenowy@...c.io>
To:     maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com,
        Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com>,
        Jernej Škrabec <jernej.skrabec@...l.net>
CC:     linux-sunxi@...glegroups.com, wens@...e.org,
        Rob Herring <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        dri-devel <dri-devel@...ts.freedesktop.org>,
        devicetree <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>,
        linux-kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-clk <linux-clk@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-sunxi] Re: [RFC PATCH 07/11] drm: sun4i: add support for the TV encoder in H3 SoC



于 2017年5月23日 GMT+08:00 下午8:53:21, Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@...e-electrons.com> 写到:
>On Mon, May 22, 2017 at 07:55:56PM +0200, Jernej Škrabec wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Dne sobota, 20. maj 2017 ob 03:37:53 CEST je Chen-Yu Tsai napisal(a):
>> > On Sat, May 20, 2017 at 2:23 AM, Jernej Škrabec
><jernej.skrabec@...l.net> 
>> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > 
>> > > Dne petek, 19. maj 2017 ob 20:08:18 CEST je Icenowy Zheng
>napisal(a):
>> > >> 于 2017年5月20日 GMT+08:00 上午2:03:30, Maxime Ripard
><maxime.ripard@...e-
>> > > 
>> > > electrons.com> 写到:
>> > >> >On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 12:43:50AM +0800, Icenowy Zheng wrote:
>> > >> >> Allwinner H3 features a TV encoder similar to the one in
>earlier
>> > >> >
>> > >> >SoCs,
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> but with some different points about clocks:
>> > >> >> - It has a mod clock and a bus clock.
>> > >> >> - The mod clock must be at a fixed rate to generate signal.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Why?
>> > >> 
>> > >> It's experiment result by Jernej.
>> > >> 
>> > >> The clock rates in BSP kernel is also specially designed
>> > >> (PLL_DE at 432MHz) in order to be able to feed the TVE.
>> > > 
>> > > My experiments and search through BSP code showed that TVE seems
>to have
>> > > additional fixed predivider 8. So if you want to generate 27 MHz
>clock,
>> > > unit has to be feed with 216 MHz.
>> > > 
>> > > TVE has only one PLL source PLL_DE. And since 216 MHz is a bit
>low for
>> > > DE2,
>> > > BSP defaults to 432 MHz for PLL_DE and use divider 2 to generate
>216 MHz.
>> > > This clock is then divided by 8 internaly to get final 27 MHz.
>> > > 
>> > > Please note that I don't have any hard evidence to support that,
>only
>> > > experimental data. However, only that explanation make sense to
>me.
>> > > 
>> > > BTW, BSP H3/H5 TV driver supports only PAL and NTSC which both
>use 27 MHz
>> > > base clock. Further experiments are needed to check if there is
>any
>> > > possibility to have other resolutions by manipulating clocks and
>give
>> > > other proper settings. I plan to do that, but not in very near
>future.
>> > 
>> > You only have composite video output, and those are the only 2
>standard
>> > resolutions that make any sense.
>> 
>> Right, other resolutions are for VGA.
>> 
>> Anyway, I did some more digging in A10 and R40 datasheets. I think
>that H3 TVE 
>> unit is something in between. R40 TVE has a setting to select "up
>sample".
>
>That might be just another translation of oversampling :)
>
>I didn't know it could be applied to composite signals though, but I
>guess this is just another analog signal after all.
>
>> Possible settings are 27 MHz, 54 MHz, 108 MHz and 216 MHz. BSP driver
>on R40 
>> has this setting enabled only for PAL and NTSC and it is always 216
>MHz. I 
>> think that H3 may have this hardwired to 216 MHz and this would be
>the reason 
>> why 216 MHz is needed.
>> 
>> Has anyone else any better explanation?
>
>That's already a pretty good one.
>
>Either way, wether this is upsampling, oversampling or just a
>pre-divider, this can and should be dealt with in the mode_set
>callback, and not in the probe.

What should we do for this?

Add a hook in TCON driver and let TVE driver affect the clock value (*16, as the dotclock is halfed)?

>
>Thanks!
>Maxime

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