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Message-ID: <1495622297.4858.19.camel@infradead.org>
Date:   Wed, 24 May 2017 11:38:17 +0100
From:   David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
To:     Joerg Roedel <jroedel@...e.de>,
        "Deucher, Alexander" <Alexander.Deucher@....com>
Cc:     'Joerg Roedel' <joro@...tes.org>,
        Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@...gle.com>,
        "linux-pci@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Daniel Drake <drake@...lessm.com>,
        Samuel Sieb <samuel@...b.net>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PCI: Add ATS-disable quirk for AMD Stoney GPUs

On Wed, 2017-05-24 at 10:44 +0200, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> Hi Alexander,
> 
> On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 07:54:12PM +0000, Deucher, Alexander wrote:
> > 
> > I finally got an answer from the hw team and we validated ATS on
> > stoney as well so in theory this patch shouldn’t actually be needed.
> > I think we may actually be papering over some other issue.  The
> > following patch seems to also fix this issue (and other issues):
> > https://www.spinics.net/lists/stable/msg172631.html
>
> Yeah, but it still looks to me like that the hardware got into some
> weird state with the storm of ATS invalidations sent to it.
> 
> The Completion-Wait loop timeouts seen in the original bug report
> indicate that the IOMMU is waiting for a response that never comes. And
> this is probably the ATS flush completion response from the GPU, as
> disabling ATS on the GPU makes the issue disappear.

The above patch doesn't actually fix any spec violation which could the
GPU an *excuse* to crash and stop responding to invalidations, does it?
It just seems to reduce the invalidation load a little, and thus paper
over the problem that the card tends to crash under load. Absent a more
coherent explanation, it still seems like the correct answer is to
blacklist these devices for ATS because they're broken.
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