linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] PM / Domains: Add support for explicit control of PM domains

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Message-ID: <5fcfeda6-f95c-cdaa-73a5-5c7499a3f9f5@codeaurora.org>
Date:   Tue, 30 May 2017 09:11:56 +0530
From:   Rajendra Nayak <rnayak@...eaurora.org>
To:     Jon Hunter <jonathanh@...dia.com>,
        Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@...aro.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>
Cc:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Kevin Hilman <khilman@...nel.org>,
        Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@...ux-m68k.org>,
        Stanimir Varbanov <stanimir.varbanov@...aro.org>,
        Stephen Boyd <sboyd@...eaurora.org>,
        Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@...sung.com>,
        "linux-pm@...r.kernel.org" <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org" <linux-tegra@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/4] PM / Domains: Add support for explicit control of
 PM domains

[]..

>>> I was proposing to have such a lower-layer by splitting the existing
>>> genpd framework so the drivers would have the option of calling the
>>> lower-level power control functions to look-up pm-domains and control
>>> them directly from their rpm callbacks (if they need to). Same as we do
>>> for clocks. This way you would not need to mess with the genpd ->start()
>>> callback and leave it to the driver to handle itself as it knows what
>>> needs to be done. This assumes that the device is never bound to the
>>> pm-domain by the genpd core.
>>
>> Yes, agree! To me this is the only solution what would really work.
> 
> I agree! :-)
> 
>> Perhaps Rafael can confirm that he is fine with a solution like this?
> 
> Yes and Rafael, please can you also elaborate on what you meant by
> "allow genpd to use either a list of power resources or the on/off
> callbacks provided by itself to cover different use cases"?
> 
> I would like to understand exactly what you meant by allowing genpd to
> use a list of power resources (ie. how you envisioned we could achieve
> this).

While thinking through the problem of devices associated with multiple Power
domains (or power resources) and controlling them individually (or together)
I was wondering if something like a PM domain governor (with PM resource 
level constraints) could help.

So with just one set of PM domain callbacks, its quite easy to control multiple power
resources, if they need to be *all* turned on/off together, using something similar to
what Jon proposed in his RFC [1]

However, there could be instances where in we might need to control them individually
and in such cases we could hook up a PM domain governor which decides if an individual
PM resource can be turned on or off while the device is runtime suspended/resumed.
We can expose some PM resource level QoS APIs which the drivers can use to express their
needs, which the PM domain governor then takes into account during the decision making.

if this seems worth pursuing further, I can post some RFCs on these lines and
get the discussion going.

thanks,
Rajendra

[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2016/9/20/173

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