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Date:   Wed, 31 May 2017 18:39:05 +0200
From:   Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@...mens.com>
To:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        "Moore, Robert" <robert.moore@...el.com>
Cc:     Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>, "Zheng, Lv" <lv.zheng@...el.com>,
        "linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org" <linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        "devel@...ica.org" <devel@...ica.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] acpi: configfs: Unload SSDT on configfs entry removal

On 2017-05-30 23:41, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 11:16 PM, Moore, Robert <robert.moore@...el.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jan Kiszka [mailto:jan.kiszka@...mens.com]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:53 AM
>>> To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@...ux.intel.com>
>>> Cc: Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...ysocki.net>; Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>;
>>> Zheng, Lv <lv.zheng@...el.com>; linux-acpi@...r.kernel.org; Linux Kernel
>>> Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>; devel@...ica.org; Moore,
>>> Robert <robert.moore@...el.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [PATCH] acpi: configfs: Unload SSDT on configfs entry
>>> removal
>>>
>>> On 2017-05-29 14:47, Mika Westerberg wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 29, 2017 at 01:33:29PM +0200, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>> Enhance acpi_load_table to also return the table index. Use that
>>>>> index to unload the table again when the corresponding directory in
>>>>> configfs gets removed. This allows to change SSDTs without rebooting
>>> the system.
>>>>> It also allows to destroy devices again that a dynamically loaded
>>>>> SSDT created.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is widely similar to the DT overlay behavior.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@...mens.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone explain to me why an unloaded table still sticks around
>>>>> in sysfs and why we cannot release its ID and rather have to use a
>>>>> new one when loading a modified version?
>>>>
>>>> IIRC ACPICA relies the fact that SSDTs are never unloaded. Bob (CC'd)
>>>> can correct me if I got it wrong.
>>>
>>
>>
>> [Moore, Robert]
>>
>> I'm not entirely sure what the table manager code looks like at this time, but ACPICA does in fact support table unloading.
>>
>> It is a rather dangerous thing to do, however -- unless you are careful about it. Basically, all handles that reference the table to be unloaded will go bad.
> 
> Right.
> 
> Linux should handle that in theory, but the code in there is mostly
> very lightly tested AFAICS.
> 
>>> OK... Is that standard-driven or just a limitation of this
>>> implementation?
>>>
>>> Is there an upper limit of tables? I'm thinking of lengthy development
>>> sessions that play with tables, loading and unloading modified versions.
>>>
>>
>> [Moore, Robert]
>>
>> I think that the maximum number of loaded ACPI tables is 255 at any given time. However, things are cleaned up after an unload such that repeated load/unload cycles should not consume resources.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is going to work seamlessly right away, but it
> certainly can be made work.
> 
> That said, the change as proposed would be an API modification forcing
> all of the OSes using ACPICA to change (or to carry out-of-the-tree
> patches), so not nice.
> 
> What about adding a separate version of acpi_load_table() returning an
> index (or an error on failures) instead of the status and leaving the
> existing acpi_load_table() as is?

Sure. Any reference/preference in naming and locating that version?
Should I leave acpica/ untouched at best? acpi_table_load/unload look
simple enough to carry the logic in acpi_configfs directly.

Jan

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