linux-kernel - Re: New vger mailing list request

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Date:   Thu, 8 Jun 2017 13:11:18 -0700
From:   "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...nel.org>
To:     Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>
Cc:     David Miller <davem@...emloft.net>,
        Kyle McMartin <kyle@...nel.org>,
        Kalle Valo <kvalo@...eaurora.org>, postmaster@...r.kernel.org,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Daniel Wagner <wagi@...om.org>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@...adcom.com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        "Li, Yi" <yi1.li@...ux.intel.com>, atull@...nel.org,
        Moritz Fischer <moritz.fischer@...us.com>,
        Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>,
        Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@...el.com>,
        Emmanuel Grumbach <emmanuel.grumbach@...el.com>,
        Luciano Coelho <luciano.coelho@...el.com>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        "AKASHI, Takahiro" <takahiro.akashi@...aro.org>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Peter Jones <pjones@...hat.com>,
        Hans de Goede <hdegoede@...hat.com>,
        Alan Cox <alan@...ux.intel.com>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Tom Gundersen <teg@...m.no>
Subject: Re: New vger mailing list request - linux-firmware

On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Greg Kroah-Hartman
<gregkh@...uxfoundation.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 12:06:55PM -0700, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 11:09 AM, David Miller <davem@...emloft.net> wrote:
>> > From: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...nel.org>
>> > Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 18:19:42 +0200
>> >
>> >> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 02:53:22PM +0300, Kalle Valo wrote:
>> >>> "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...nel.org> writes:
>> >>>
>> >>> > Dear vger postmaster,
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I think its time for a linux-firmware mailing list. If one is possible
>> >>> > on vger that'd be great, otherwise let me know and I can look for an
>> >>> > alternative outlet.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > I've been giving linux-firmware some good love as of late. One of the
>> >>> > issues I have seen with old commits had been lack of eyeball reviews,
>> >>> > and and also ensuring the "right people" do review and get CC'd. While
>> >>> > I do tend to CC everyone and their mom, its easy for me to know who
>> >>> > should be as I'm maintaining the code now -- but I see some folks fail
>> >>> > to capture everyone I know should be reviewing things or might like to
>> >>> > get Cc'd on such topics. Tools like checkpatch help but its not
>> >>> > perfect and now everyone use it. Instead of CC'ing everyone I know
>> >>> > should be Cc'd on linux-firmware stuff I think its time for a proper
>> >>> > mailing list for it.
>> >>> >
>> >>> > This should also help with reviewing old patches and letting new folks
>> >>> > engage more easily by looking at specific dedicate archive of what's
>> >>> > going on.
>> >>>
>> >>> There's already linux-firmware@...nel.org (an alias I think, not sure)
>> >>
>> >> Ah, yes thanks.
>> >>
>> >>> for submitting patches to linux-firmware.git. I think it will be
>> >>> confusing if we will have two separate linux-firmware destinations under
>> >>> kernel.org domain:
>> >>>
>> >>> linux-firmware@...nel.org
>> >>> linux-firmware@...r.kernel.org
>> >>>
>> >>> Maybe rename the new list to linux-fw-dev@...r.kernel.org or something
>> >>> like that to make it more obvious which one is which?
>> >>
>> >> Yeah good call. That's fine by me, but I'll leave it to postmaster to
>> >> also decide.
>> >
>> > One list is enough, I think.
>>
>> Oh, thing is linux-firmware@...nel.org is for patches to the
>> linux-firmare.git tree, meanwhile my request was for
>> drivers/base/firmware_class.c, its respective headers and
>> documentation. I really don't think folks who want to see changes to
>> the firmware_class changes want to see any of the binary blobs that go
>> into linux-firmware.git.
>
> Does a single file, or just a few files, really need a whole new mailing
> list?  I don't think so, let's just stick with lkml for now.

Do users deserve the amount of silly regressions and issues we've seen
over the years on firmware_class ? Would yet-another mailing list help
? I think so.

  Luis