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Message-ID: <3b6e3eab-3d61-e7f8-0ebd-886b7c9c23e9@suse.cz>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 10:21:00 +0200
From: Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@...ux.intel.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4] thp: fix MADV_DONTNEED vs. numa balancing race
On 05/23/2017 02:42 PM, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
> On 05/16/2017 10:29 PM, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 03:33:35PM +0200, Vlastimil Babka wrote:
>>>
>>> pmdp_invalidate() does:
>>>
>>> pmd_t entry = *pmdp;
>>> set_pmd_at(vma->vm_mm, address, pmdp, pmd_mknotpresent(entry));
>>>
>>> so it's not atomic and if CPU sets dirty or accessed in the middle of
>>> this, they will be lost?
>>
>> I agree it looks like the dirty bit can be lost. Furthermore this also
>> loses a MMU notifier invalidate that will lead to corruption at the
>> secondary MMU level (which will keep using the old protection
>> permission, potentially keeping writing to a wrprotected page).
>
> Oh, I didn't paste the whole function, just the pmd manipulation.
> There's also a third line:
>
> flush_pmd_tlb_range(vma, address, address + HPAGE_PMD_SIZE);
>
> so there's no missing invalidate, AFAICS? Sorry for the confusion.
Oh, tlb flush is not MMU notified invalidate...
>>>
>>> But I don't see how the other invalidate caller
>>> __split_huge_pmd_locked() deals with this either. Andrea, any idea?
>>
>> The original code I wrote did this in __split_huge_page_map to create
>> the "entry" to establish in the pte pagetables:
>>
>> entry = mk_pte(page + i, vma->vm_page_prot);
>> entry = maybe_mkwrite(pte_mkdirty(entry),
>> vma);
>>
>> For anonymous memory the dirty bit is only meaningful for swapping,
>> and THP couldn't be swapped so setting it unconditional avoided any
>> issue with the pmdp_invalidate; pmdp_establish.
>
> Yeah, but now we are going to swap THP's, and we have shmem THP's...
>
>> pmdp_invalidate is needed primarily to avoid aliasing of two different
>> TLB translation pointing from the same virtual address to the the same
>> physical address that triggered machine checks (while needing to keep
>> the pmd huge at all times, back then it was also splitting huge,
>> splitting is a software bit so userland could still access the data,
>> splitting bit only blocked kernel code to manipulate on it similar to
>> what migration entry does right now upstream, except those prevent
>> userland to access the page during split which is less efficient than
>> the splitting bit, but at least it's only used for the physical split,
>> back then there was no difference between virtual and physical split
>> and physical split is less frequent than the virtual one right now).
>
> This took me a while to grasp, but I think I understand now :)
>
>> It looks like this needs a pmdp_populate that atomically grabs the
>> value of the pmd and returns it like pmdp_huge_get_and_clear_notify
>> does
>
> pmdp_huge_get_and_clear_notify() is now gone...
>
>> and a _notify variant to use "freeze" is false (if freeze is true
>> the MMU notifier invalidate must have happened when the pmd was set to
>> a migration entry). If pmdp_populate_notify (freeze==true)
>> /pmd_populate (freeze==false) would return the old pmd value
>> atomically with xchg() (just instead of setting it to 0 we should set
>> it to the mknotpresent one), then we can set the dirty bit on the ptes
>> (__split_huge_pmd_locked) or in the pmd itself in the change_huge_pmd
>> accordingly.
I was trying to look into this yesterday, but e.g. I know next to
nothing about MMU notifiers (see above :) so I would probably get it
wrong. But it should get fixed, so... Kirill?
> I think the confusion was partially caused by the comment at the
> original caller of pmdp_invalidate():
>
> we first mark the
> * current pmd notpresent (atomically because here the pmd_trans_huge
> * and pmd_trans_splitting must remain set at all times on the pmd
> * until the split is complete for this pmd),
>
> It says "atomically" but in fact that only means that the pmd_trans_huge
> and pmd_trans_splitting flags are not temporarily cleared at any point
> of time, right? It's not a true atomic swap.
>
>> If the "dirty" flag information is obtained by the pmd read before
>> calling pmdp_invalidate is not ok (losing _notify also not ok).
>
> Right.
>
>> Thanks!
>> Andrea
>>
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