linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH] mm, memory_hotplug: support movable

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Date:   Mon, 12 Jun 2017 08:45:02 +0200
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
To:     Wei Yang <richard.weiyang@...il.com>
Cc:     Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
        Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>, Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
        Reza Arbab <arbab@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Yasuaki Ishimatsu <yasu.isimatu@...il.com>,
        qiuxishi@...wei.com, Kani Toshimitsu <toshi.kani@....com>,
        slaoub@...il.com, Joonsoo Kim <js1304@...il.com>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
        Daniel Kiper <daniel.kiper@...cle.com>,
        Igor Mammedov <imammedo@...hat.com>,
        Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@...hat.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mm, memory_hotplug: support movable_node for hotplugable
 nodes

On Mon 12-06-17 12:28:32, Wei Yang wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 08, 2017 at 02:23:18PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> >From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
> >
> >movable_node kernel parameter allows to make hotplugable NUMA
> >nodes to put all the hotplugable memory into movable zone which
> >allows more or less reliable memory hotremove.  At least this
> >is the case for the NUMA nodes present during the boot (see
> >find_zone_movable_pfns_for_nodes).
> >
> 
> When movable_node is enabled, we would have overlapped zones, right?

It won't based on this patch. See movable_pfn_range

> To be specific, only ZONE_MOVABLE could have memory ranges belongs to other
> zones.
> 
> This looks a little different in the whole ZONE design.
> 
> >This is not the case for the memory hotplug, though.
> >
> >	echo online > /sys/devices/system/memory/memoryXYZ/status
> >
> >will default to a kernel zone (usually ZONE_NORMAL) unless the
> >particular memblock is already in the movable zone range which is not
>             ^^^
> 
> Here is memblock or a memory_block?

yes

> 
> >the case normally when onlining the memory from the udev rule context
> >for a freshly hotadded NUMA node. The only option currently is to have a
> 
> So the semantic you want to change here is to make the memory_block in
> ZONE_MOVABLE when movable_node is enabled.

Yes, by default when there the specific range is not associated with any
other zone.

> Besides this, movable_node is enabled, what other requirements? Like, this
> memory_block should next to current ZONE_MOVABLE ? or something else?

no other requirements. 

> >special udev rule to echo online_movable to all memblocks belonging to
> >such a node which is rather clumsy. Not the mention this is inconsistent
>                                          ^^^
> 
> Hmm... "Not to mentions" looks more understandable.

yes this is a typo

> BTW, I am not a native speaker. If this usage is correct, just ignore this
> comment.
> 
> >as well because what ended up in the movable zone during the boot will
> >end up in a kernel zone after hotremove & hotadd without special care.
> >
> >It would be nice to reuse memblock_is_hotpluggable but the runtime
> >hotplug doesn't have that information available because the boot and
> >hotplug paths are not shared and it would be really non trivial to
> >make them use the same code path because the runtime hotplug doesn't
> >play with the memblock allocator at all.
> >
> >Teach move_pfn_range that MMOP_ONLINE_KEEP can use the movable zone if
> >movable_node is enabled and the range doesn't overlap with the existing
> >normal zone. This should provide a reasonable default onlining strategy.
> >
> >Strictly speaking the semantic is not identical with the boot time
> >initialization because find_zone_movable_pfns_for_nodes covers only the
> >hotplugable range as described by the BIOS/FW. From my experience this
> >is usually a full node though (except for Node0 which is special and
> >never goes away completely). If this turns out to be a problem in the
> >real life we can tweak the code to store hotplug flag into memblocks
> >but let's keep this simple now.
> >
> 
> Let me try to understand your purpose of this change.
> 
> If a memblock has MEMBLOCK_HOTPLU set, it would be in ZONE_MOVABLE during
> bootup. While a hotplugged memory_block would be in ZONE_NORMAL without
> special care.
> 
> So you want to make sure when movable_node is enabled, the hotplugged
> memory_block would be in ZONE_MOVABLE. Is this correct?

yes

> One more thing is do we have MEMBLOCK_HOTPLU for a hotplugged memory_block?

No, we do not, as the changelog mentions. This flag is set in the
memblock allocator (do not confuse that with the memory_block hotplug
works with - yeah quite confusing) and that is a boot only thing. We do
not use it during runtime memory hotplug.
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs