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Message-ID: <CAJvTdKnULzQCdwg7vqfSymr+nbS=7UgVPBCqYpqcH8gApUHrxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Date:   Fri, 16 Jun 2017 21:31:15 -0400
From:   Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
To:     "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>
Cc:     Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>,
        X86 ML <x86@...nel.org>,
        "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...ux.intel.com>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@...nel.org>,
        Linux PM list <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/5] intel_pstate: skip scheduler hook when in
 "performance" mode.

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 9:06 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...ysocki.net> wrote:
> On Friday, June 16, 2017 08:52:53 PM Len Brown wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@...ysocki.net> wrote:
>> > On Wednesday, June 07, 2017 07:39:15 PM Len Brown wrote:
>> >> From: Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>
>> >>
>> >> When the governor is set to "performance", intel_pstate does not
>> >> need the scheduler hook for doing any calculations.  Under these
>> >> conditions, its only purpose is to continue to maintain
>> >> cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq.
>> >>
>> >> But the cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq sysfs attribute is now provided by
>> >> the x86 cpufreq core on all modern x86 systems, including
>> >> all systems supported by the intel_pstate driver.
>> >>
>> >> So in "performance" governor mode, the scheduler hook can be skipped.
>> >> This applies to both in Software and Hardware P-state control modes.
>> >>
>> >> Suggested-by: Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruvada@...ux.intel.com>
>> >> Signed-off-by: Len Brown <len.brown@...el.com>
>> >> ---
>> >>  drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c | 4 ++--
>> >>  1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>> >>
>> >> diff --git a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> >> index 5d67780..0ff3a4b 100644
>> >> --- a/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> >> +++ b/drivers/cpufreq/intel_pstate.c
>> >> @@ -2025,10 +2025,10 @@ static int intel_pstate_set_policy(struct cpufreq_policy *policy)
>> >>                */
>> >>               intel_pstate_clear_update_util_hook(policy->cpu);
>> >
>> > The statement above shouldn't be necessary any more after the change below.
>>
>> The policy can change at run time form something other than  performance
>> to performance, so we want to clear the hook in that case, no?
>
> Yes.
>
>> >>               intel_pstate_max_within_limits(cpu);
>> >> +     } else {
>> >> +             intel_pstate_set_update_util_hook(policy->cpu);
>> >>       }
>> >>
>> >> -     intel_pstate_set_update_util_hook(policy->cpu);
>> >> -
>> >>       if (hwp_active)
>> >>               intel_pstate_hwp_set(policy->cpu);
>> >>
>> >
>> > What about update_turbo_pstate()?
>> >
>> > In theory MSR_IA32_MISC_ENABLE_TURBO_DISABLE can be set at any time, so
>> > wouldn't that become problematic after this change?
>>
>> yes, the sysfs "no_turbo" attribute can be modified at any time, invoking
>> update_turbo_state(), which will update MSR_IA32_MISC_ENABLE_TURBO_DISABLE
>
> If that was the only way it could change, I wouldn't worry about it, but what
> about changes by BMCs and similar?  Are they not a concern?
>
>> But how is the presence or change in turbo related to the lack of a
>> need to hook the scheduler callback in "performance" mode?  The hook
>> literally does nothing in this case, except consume cycles, no?
>
> No.
>
> It actually sets the P-state to the current maximum (which admittedly is
> excessive) exactly because the maximum may change on the fly in theory.

There are 2 cases.

If turbo was enabled and were we requesting max turbo
and "somebody" disabled turbo in an MSR, then the HW would
simply clip our excessive req
> If it can't change on the fly (or we don't care), we can do some more
> simplifications there. :-)

I do not think it is Linux's responsibility to monitor changes to MSRs
such as Turbo enable/disable done behind its back by a BMC at run-time.
(if this is even possible)


-- 
Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center

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