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Message-ID: <20170622233619.GC2894@mail.hallyn.com>
Date:   Thu, 22 Jun 2017 18:36:19 -0500
From:   "Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@...lyn.com>
To:     James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
Cc:     Stefan Berger <stefanb@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>, ebiederm@...ssion.com,
        containers@...ts.linux-foundation.org, lkp@...org,
        xiaolong.ye@...el.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
        zohar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com, serge@...lyn.com, tycho@...ker.com,
        christian.brauner@...lbox.org, vgoyal@...hat.com,
        amir73il@...il.com, linux-security-module@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Enable namespaced file capabilities

Quoting James Bottomley (James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com):
> On Thu, 2017-06-22 at 14:59 -0400, Stefan Berger wrote:
> > This series of patches primary goal is to enable file capabilities
> > in user namespaces without affecting the file capabilities that are
> > effective on the host. This is to prevent that any unprivileged user
> > on the host maps his own uid to root in a private namespace, writes
> > the xattr, and executes the file with privilege on the host.
> > 
> > We achieve this goal by writing extended attributes with a different
> > name when a user namespace is used. If for example the root user
> > in a user namespace writes the security.capability xattr, the name
> > of the xattr that is actually written is encoded as
> > security.capability@...=1000 for root mapped to uid 1000 on the host.
> > When listing the xattrs on the host, the existing security.capability
> > as well as the security.capability@...=1000 will be shown. Inside the
> > namespace only 'security.capability', with the value of
> > security.capability@...=1000, is visible.
> 
> I'm a bit bothered by the @uid=1000 suffix.  What if I want to use this
> capability but am dynamically mapping the namespaces (i.e. I know I
> want unprivileged root, but I'm going to dynamically select the range
> to map based on what's currently available on the orchestration
> system).  If we stick with the @uid=X suffix, then dynamic mapping
> won't work because X is potentially different each time and there'll be
> a name mismatch in my xattrs.  Why not just make the suffix @uid, which
> means if root is mapped to any unprivileged uid then we pick this up
> otherwise we go with the unsuffixed property?
> 
> As far as I can see there's no real advantage to discriminating userns
> specific xattrs based on where root is mapped to, unless there's a use
> case I'm missing?

Yes, the use case is: to allow root in the container to set the
privilege itself, without endangering any resources not owned by
that root.  If you're going to have a root owned host-wide
orchestration system setting up the rootfs, then you don't
necessary need this at all.

As you say a @uid to say "any unprivileged userns" might be useful.
The implication is that root on the host doesn't trust the image
enough to write a real global file capability, but trusts it enough
to 'endanger' all containers on the host.  If that's the case, I have
no objection to adding this as a feature.

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