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Date:   Thu, 22 Jun 2017 16:27:14 -0400
From:   Waiman Long <longman@...hat.com>
To:     Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:     Li Zefan <lizefan@...wei.com>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>, cgroups@...r.kernel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, kernel-team@...com, pjt@...gle.com,
        luto@...capital.net, efault@....de, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH-cgroup 4/6] cgroup: Introduce subtree root mode

On 06/21/2017 05:38 PM, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello, Waiman.
>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 11:05:35AM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> Subtree root mode is a new cgroup mode which applies the following
>> restrictions when turned on:
>>
>>  1) Controllers are only allowed to be passed to the children in
>>     bypass mode except those with the "enable_on_root" flag on.
>>  2) Only 1 child cgroup is allowed.
>>
>> That lone child can be used as the pseudo root of a container cgroup
>> hierarchy.  All the resources, if controlled, are in the parent
>> cgroup. There will be no control knobs in the child. That makes it
>> look and feel like a root.
> I'm not sure not having the control files in the child makes that much
> difference.

It is more a look and feel thing than being useful. The sole purpose is
to make the container root looks like a real root as much as possible.

>> That pseudo root is also considered to be mixable and so can become
>> root of a mixed threaded subtree. The no internal process constraint
>> also does not apply.
> Heh, you can't just declare a non-root cgroup to be a mixed root but
> if you're special casing this and making the kernel play a masquerade
> with special node, you can make cgroup provide a mixed root while
> hosting the internal processes in a dedicated leaf cgroup which isn't
> visible to the nested root, right?

That is true.

> It's all a game of masquerading tho and doesn't actually enable
> anything which isn't possible now.  This would definitely be useful
> for testing.
You are right about that. As mentioned in another email, having bypass
mode in subtree_control is useful, I think. The concept of subtree root
mode, however, is more toward satisfying PeterZ's idea of container
invariant. I won't mind leaving it out if others have no objection to that.

Cheers,
Longman



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