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Message-ID: <20170626090054.GF11534@dhcp22.suse.cz>
Date:   Mon, 26 Jun 2017 11:00:55 +0200
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
To:     Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>
Cc:     Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>, Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
        Daniel Micay <danielmicay@...il.com>,
        David Windsor <dave@...lcore.net>,
        Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@...il.com>,
        Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>,
        David Rientjes <rientjes@...gle.com>,
        Joonsoo Kim <iamjoonsoo.kim@....com>,
        Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@...el.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...nel.org>,
        "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>,
        Andy Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Nicolas Pitre <nicolas.pitre@...aro.org>,
        Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Daniel Mack <daniel@...que.org>,
        Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@...utronix.de>,
        Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky@...il.com>,
        Helge Deller <deller@....de>, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
        "linux-doc@...r.kernel.org" <linux-doc@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux-MM <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] mm: Allow slab_nomerge to be set at build time

On Fri 23-06-17 12:20:25, Kees Cook wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 7:06 AM, Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org> wrote:
> > On Tue 20-06-17 16:09:11, Kees Cook wrote:
> >> Some hardened environments want to build kernels with slab_nomerge
> >> already set (so that they do not depend on remembering to set the kernel
> >> command line option). This is desired to reduce the risk of kernel heap
> >> overflows being able to overwrite objects from merged caches and changes
> >> the requirements for cache layout control, increasing the difficulty of
> >> these attacks. By keeping caches unmerged, these kinds of exploits can
> >> usually only damage objects in the same cache (though the risk to metadata
> >> exploitation is unchanged).
> >
> > Do we really want to have a dedicated config for each hardening specific
> > kernel command line? I believe we have quite a lot of config options
> > already. Can we rather have a CONFIG_HARDENED_CMD_OPIONS and cover all
> > those defauls there instead?
> 
> There's not been a lot of success with grouped Kconfigs in the past
> (e.g. CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL), but one thing that has been suggested is a
> defconfig-like make target that would collect all the things together.

Which wouldn't reduce the number of config options, would it? I don't
know but is there any usecase when somebody wants to have hardened
kernel and still want to have different defaults than you are
suggesting?
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs

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