linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v9 1/5] firmware: add extensible driver data params

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Message-ID: <20170626212941.GF21846@wotan.suse.de>
Date:   Mon, 26 Jun 2017 23:29:41 +0200
From:   "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...nel.org>
To:     Rafał Miłecki <rafal@...ecki.pl>
Cc:     "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@...nel.org>,
        Greg KH <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>,
        Vikram Mulukutla <markivx@...eaurora.org>,
        Stephen Boyd <stephen.boyd@...aro.org>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@...6.fr>,
        Daniel Wagner <wagi@...om.org>,
        David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>,
        Arend Van Spriel <arend.vanspriel@...adcom.com>,
        "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...ysocki.net>,
        "Li, Yi" <yi1.li@...ux.intel.com>, atull@...nsource.altera.com,
        Moritz Fischer <moritz.fischer@...us.com>,
        Petr Mladek <pmladek@...e.com>,
        Johannes Berg <johannes.berg@...el.com>,
        Emmanuel Grumbach <emmanuel.grumbach@...el.com>,
        "Coelho, Luciano" <luciano.coelho@...el.com>,
        Kalle Valo <kvalo@...eaurora.org>,
        Andrew Lutomirski <luto@...nel.org>,
        Jiri Kosina <jkosina@...e.cz>,
        Kees Cook <keescook@...omium.org>,
        "AKASHI, Takahiro" <takahiro.akashi@...aro.org>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Peter Jones <pjones@...hat.com>,
        Hans de Goede <hdegoede@...hat.com>,
        Alan Cox <alan@...ux.intel.com>, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
        NeilBrown <neilb@...e.com>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 1/5] firmware: add extensible driver data params

On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 08:19:07PM +0200, Rafał Miłecki wrote:
> On 2017-06-26 19:33, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
> > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 02:39:51PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > > > There are still other requirements and features in the pipeline for which we
> > > > can consider parameters to parse for, rather than adding new API. Case in
> > > > point, do we want *one* API just to disable the firmware cache? Specially
> > > > knowing that another feature in the pipeline later would make use of this as a
> > > > requirement?
> > > 
> > > Again, I do not care!  You can not justify patches today with some
> > > mythical thing in the future that might never even happen.
> > 
> > Granting the option to make async firmware optional was discussed since
> > December 2016 by RafaÅ [1]. It was only later during my driver data API
> > changes that Hans noted the nvram part was actually *not* optional [2] so
> > this requirement dropped. *However* as the maintainer I believ ethis
> > requirement *is sensible* and would not be surprised if alternative
> > firmware already exists where this is what is intended.
> 
> I believe there was a misunderstanding of my patch by Hans. The point of my
> patch was to don't display warning *IF* we can use alternative soruce and
> get the NVRAM (firmware) from platform data (special partition used by the
> bootloader and accessible by the operating system).

Oh, are you saying the optional async firmware loading is still a requirement
for this driver? Are you, Hans, and Arend Van Spriel in agreement on this?

If so then that definitely makes 3 effective changes in my radar for extensions
to the firmware API.

  Luis