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Message-ID: <20170703171338.GG1573@arm.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2017 18:13:38 +0100
From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@....com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 08/26] locking: Remove spin_unlock_wait() generic
definitions
On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 09:40:22AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Agreed, and my next step is to look at spin_lock() followed by
> > spin_is_locked(), not necessarily the same lock.
>
> Hmm. Most (all?) "spin_is_locked()" really should be about the same
> thread that took the lock (ie it's about asserts and lock debugging).
>
> The optimistic ABBA avoidance pattern for spinlocks *should* be
>
> spin_lock(inner)
> ...
> if (!try_lock(outer)) {
> spin_unlock(inner);
> .. do them in the right order ..
>
> so I don't think spin_is_locked() should have any memory barriers.
>
> In fact, the core function for spin_is_locked() is arguably
> arch_spin_value_unlocked() which doesn't even do the access itself.
Yeah, but there's some spaced-out stuff going on in kgdb_cpu_enter where
it looks to me like raw_spin_is_locked is used for synchronization. My
eyes are hurting looking at it, though.
Will
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