linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2] zswap: Zero-filled pages handling

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Date:   Thu, 6 Jul 2017 06:02:58 -0400
From:   Dan Streetman <ddstreet@...e.org>
To:     srividya.dr@...sung.com
Cc:     Sergey Senozhatsky <sergey.senozhatsky.work@...il.com>,
        Seth Jennings <sjenning@...hat.com>,
        "penberg@...nel.org" <penberg@...nel.org>,
        "linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
        "linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Dinakar Reddy Pathireddy <dinakar.p@...sung.com>,
        SHARAN ALLUR <sharan.allur@...sung.com>,
        SUNEEL KUMAR SURIMANI <suneel@...sung.com>,
        JUHUN KIM <juhunkim@...sung.com>,
        "srividya.desireddy@...il.com" <srividya.desireddy@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] zswap: Zero-filled pages handling

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 5:29 AM, Srividya Desireddy
<srividya.dr@...sung.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Sergey Senozhatsky wrote:
>> On (07/02/17 20:28), Seth Jennings wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jul 2, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Srividya Desireddy
>>> > Zswap is a cache which compresses the pages that are being swapped out
>>> > and stores them into a dynamically allocated RAM-based memory pool.
>>> > Experiments have shown that around 10-20% of pages stored in zswap
>>> > are zero-filled pages (i.e. contents of the page are all zeros), but
>>> > these pages are handled as normal pages by compressing and allocating
>>> > memory in the pool.
>>>
>>> I am somewhat surprised that this many anon pages are zero filled.
>>>
>>> If this is true, then maybe we should consider solving this at the
>>> swap level in general, as we can de-dup zero pages in all swap
>>> devices, not just zswap.
>>>
>>> That being said, this is a fair small change and I don't see anything
>>> objectionable.  However, I do think the better solution would be to do
>> this at a higher level.
>>
>
> Thank you for your suggestion. It is a better solution to handle
> zero-filled pages before swapping-out to zswap. Since, Zram is already
> handles Zero pages internally, I considered to handle within Zswap.
> In a long run, we can work on it to commonly handle zero-filled anon
> pages.
>
>> zero-filled pages are just 1 case. in general, it's better
>> to handle pages that are memset-ed with the same value (e.g.
>> memset(page, 0x01, page_size)). which includes, but not
>> limited to, 0x00. zram does it.
>>
>>         -ss
>
> It is a good solution to extend zero-filled pages handling to same value
> pages. I will work on to identify the percentage of same value pages
> excluding zero-filled pages in Zswap and will get back.

Yes, this sounds like a good modification to the patch.  Also, unless
anyone else disagrees, it may be good to control this with a module
param - in case anyone has a use case that they know won't be helped
by this, and the extra overhead of checking each page is wasteful.
Probably should default to enabled.

>
> - Srividya