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Message-ID: <01f6dcaa-b310-63fa-f43d-2acf44d734c3@auristor.com>
Date:   Sat, 8 Jul 2017 22:37:53 -0400
From:   Jeffrey Altman <jaltman@...istor.com>
To:     Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu>,
        Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Andreas Dilger <adilger@...ger.ca>,
        David Howells <dhowells@...hat.com>,
        Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
        Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
        linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Linux API <linux-api@...r.kernel.org>,
        linux-afs@...ts.infradead.org,
        Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] afs: Add metadata xattrs

On 7/8/2017 9:01 PM, Theodore Ts'o wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 12:44:54PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>> Yeah, I think attributes are likely much better than some random crazy
>> ioctl interface. They can be listed with generic tools, and have
>> various scripting interfaces in ways that ioctl's do not sanely have.
> 
> I personally don't have a particular problem with these xattrs.  For
> one thing, they are read-only.  You use them just to find out the AFS
> cell, the AFS "fid", and the AFS volume name.
> 
> I think the place where people will start getting nervous is when we
> start adding "write-only" xattrs or where writing to an xattr causes a
> side-effect to take place.

Ted,

The list of AFS pioctls and the proposed alternatives for kAFS are
listed at

  https://www.infradead.org/~dhowells/kafs/user_interface.html

While it is true that the majority of the proposed xattrs are read-only
properties of AFS objects (cell, volume, fid, servers, sec_class,
sec_mode) there is one exception that is read-write (acls).  AuriStorFS
permits acls to be set per-file; there was some per-file acl work begun
for OpenAFS but it was never completed.

Is there an alternative for fetching and setting ACLs that should be
considered?

Jeffrey Altman





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