linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Create fast idle path for short idle periods

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Date:   Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:57:32 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:     Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>,
        Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        "Li, Aubrey" <aubrey.li@...ux.intel.com>,
        Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>,
        Aubrey Li <aubrey.li@...el.com>, tglx@...utronix.de,
        len.brown@...el.com, rjw@...ysocki.net, tim.c.chen@...ux.intel.com,
        arjan@...ux.intel.com, yang.zhang.wz@...il.com, x86@...nel.org,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 00/11] Create fast idle path for short idle periods

On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 07:17:56PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> Could be I'm just not remembering how all that works.. But I was
> wondering if we can do the expensive bits if we've decided to actually
> go NOHZ and avoid doing it on every idle entry.
> 
> IIRC the RCU fast NOHZ bits try and flush the callback list (or paw it
> off to another CPU?) such that we can go NOHZ sooner. Having a !empty
> callback list avoid NOHZ from happening.
> 
> Now if we've already decided we can't in fact go NOHZ due to other
> concerns, flushing the callback list is pointless work. So I'm thinking
> we can find a better place to do this.

I'm a wee bit confused by the split between rcu_prepare_for_idle() and
rcu_needs_cpu().

There's a fair amount overlap there.. that said, I'm thinking we should
be calling rcu_needs_cpu() as the very last test, not the very first,
such that we can bail out of tick_nohz_stop_sched_tick() without having
to incur the penalty of flushing callbacks.