linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 7/9] mm, page_alloc: remove stop_machine from build_all

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date:   Fri, 14 Jul 2017 13:00:25 +0200
From:   Michal Hocko <mhocko@...nel.org>
To:     Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Cc:     linux-mm@...ck.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
        Johannes Weiner <hannes@...xchg.org>,
        Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@...e.cz>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 7/9] mm, page_alloc: remove stop_machine from
 build_all_zonelists

On Fri 14-07-17 10:59:32, Mel Gorman wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:00:04AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
> > 
> > build_all_zonelists has been (ab)using stop_machine to make sure that
> > zonelists do not change while somebody is looking at them. This is
> > is just a gross hack because a) it complicates the context from which
> > we can call build_all_zonelists (see 3f906ba23689 ("mm/memory-hotplug:
> > switch locking to a percpu rwsem")) and b) is is not really necessary
> > especially after "mm, page_alloc: simplify zonelist initialization".
> > 
> > Updates of the zonelists happen very seldom, basically only when a zone
> > becomes populated during memory online or when it loses all the memory
> > during offline. A racing iteration over zonelists could either miss a
> > zone or try to work on one zone twice. Both of these are something we
> > can live with occasionally because there will always be at least one
> > zone visible so we are not likely to fail allocation too easily for
> > example.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.com>
> 
> This patch is contingent on the last patch which updates in place
> instead of zeroing the early part of the zonelist first but needs to fix
> the stack usage issues. I think it's also worth pointing out in the
> changelog that stop_machine never gave the guarantees it claimed as a
> process iterating through the zonelist can be stopped so when it resumes
> the zonelist has changed underneath it. Doing it online is roughly
> equivalent in terms of safety.

OK, what about the following addendum?
"
Please note that the original stop_machine approach doesn't really
provide a better exclusion because the iteration might be interrupted
half way (unless the whole iteration is preempt disabled which is not the
case in most cases) so the some zones could still be seen twice or a
zone missed.
"
-- 
Michal Hocko
SUSE Labs