Message-ID: <73f4a527-1144-4b0d-a9db-e3fb153cc658@xs4all.nl>
Date:   Fri, 28 Jul 2017 15:39:44 +0200
From:   Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@...all.nl>
To:     Helen Koike <helen.koike@...labora.com>,
        linux-media@...r.kernel.org
Cc:     Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@...asonboard.com>,
        Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@....samsung.com>,
        Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@....fi>,
        Jeremy Gebben <jgebben@...eaurora.org>,
        linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [media] vimc: API proposal, configuring the topology from user
 space

Hi Helen,

Finally after way too long I found some time to review this. See my comments
below.

On 04/11/2017 12:53 AM, Helen Koike wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Continuing the discussion about the API of the vimc driver, I made some 
> changes
> based on the previous comments, please see below and let me know your 
> opinion about it.
> 
> Helen
> 
> /***********************
> Configfs considerations:
> ************************/
> Informal definitions:
> 	subsystem: the root driver folder in user space (/configfs/vimc)
> 	item: aka a folder in user space
> 	attributes: aka files in the folder
> 	group: aka a folder that can contain subfolders (parent and child relation)
> 	default group: aka a subfolder that is created automatically when the 
> "parent" folder is created
> 		it is not considered a child in terms of rmdir
> 
> * Performing rmdir in a group will fail if it contain children that are 
> not default groups, i.e, if the
> folder contain subfolders that are default group, then it can be removed 
> with rmdir, if the
> subfolders were created with mkdir, then rmdir in the parent will fail.
> 
> * Configfs has the notion of committable item but it is not implemented 
> yet. A committable item is an item
> that can be in one of two parent folders called: live and pending. The 
> idea is to create and modify the item
> in the pending directory and then to move the item through a rename to 
> the live directory where
> it can't be modified. This seems to be a nice feature for vimc, but as 
> it is not available yet the
> proposal below won't be based on this.
> 
> * Groups can be dynamically created/destroyed by the driver whenever it 
> wants. Afaik attributes can only
> be created when the group or item is created and symlinks can only be 
> create from user space, i.e, the
> driver don't know how to create/destroy attributes or symlinks in anytime.
> 
> /***********************
> The API:
> ************************/
> 
> In short, a topology like this one: http://goo.gl/Y7eUfu
> Would look like this filesystem tree: https://goo.gl/mEOmOf

This mentions 'Yellow' lines, but since you dropped symlinks these no
longer exist. You probably need to update the legend.

> 
> v3 core changes:
> - I removed the use of symlinks as I wans't able to see how to do it nicely.
> - I use the names of the folders created by user space to retrieve 
> information at mkdir time
> - hotplug file in each entity
> - hotplug file in each device
> - reset file in each device
> 
> * The /configfs/vimc subsystem
> empty when the driver is loaded

I'm not sure about that. I think it would make sense that vimc when loaded
would make one instance, unless otherwise told via a module option.

Something like this (taken from vivid):

parm:           n_devs: number of driver instances to create (uint)

By default this is 1, but can also be 0, 2, 3, etc.

> 
> * Create a device
> Userspace can create a new vimc device with:
> 
> 	$ mkdir /configfs/vimc/any_name
> 	Example:
> 	$ mkdir /configfs/vimc/vimc0
> 	$ ls -l /configfs/vimc/vimc0
> 	hotplug
> 	reset
> 	entities/
> 	links/
> 
> entities/ and links/ folder are default groups, thus they don't prevent 
> rmdir vimc0/, but
> rmdir will fail if it has any child inside entities/ or links/.
> hotplug is used to plug and unplug the device, it can read "plugged" or 
> "unplugged" and user can
> write "plug" or "unplug" to change its state.

I would also support writing "plugged" and "unplugged". I.e. support both variants.

> Changing hotplug state will never fail as the configfs tree will always 
> be in a valid state.
> reset is used to easily destroy all the topology without the need to 
> walk through all the children
> to perform rmdir, writing 1 to reset file will set hotplug to 
> "unplugged" and erase all folders
> under entities/ and links/.
> 
> * Create an entity
> Userspace can create a new entity with:
> 
> 	$ mkdir /configfs/vimc/vimc0/entities/<role>:<name>
> 	Example:
> 	$ mkdir /configfs/vimc/vimc0/entities/sensor:SensorA
> 	$ ls -l /configfs/vimc/vimc0/entities/sensor:SensorA
> 	hotplug
> 	pad:source:0/
> 
> The name of the folder needs to be in the format <role>:<name> or it 
> will be rejected, this allows the
> creation of the right pads according to its role at mkdir time, 
> eliminating the previously proposed role
> and name files.
> hotplug is used to plug and unplug the hw block, it can read "plugged" 
> or "unplugged" and user can
> write "plug" or "unplug" to change its state. As we don't support this 
> yet in the media core, changing it
> will only be allowed if /configfs/vimc/vimc0/hotplug is "unplugged".
> hotplug file is "unplugged" by default.
> Pads will be created as default groups with the name in the format 
> pad:<direction>:<pad_number> and it
> will be an empty folder.
> If the hw block supports different number of pads, we could expose two 
> files:
> sinks
> sources
> where the user space can write the desired number of sink and source 
> pads and the driver will dynamically
> create the folders pad:<direction>:<pad_number>
> 
> * Create a link
> User space can create a link between two entities with:
> 
> 	$ mkdir 
> /configfs/vimc/vimc0/links/<entity_src_name>:<pad_n>-><entity_sink_name>:<pad_n>
> 	Example:
> 	$ mkdir /configfs/vimc/vimc0/links/DebayerA:1->Scaler:0
> 	$ ls -l /configfs/vimc/vimc0/links/DebayerA:1->Scaler:0

You need to escape '>' in the examples above. Or better, just put the whole argument
in '...' quotes.

> 	flags
> 
> mkdir will be rejected if folder is not on the format 
> <entity_src_name>:<pad_n>-><entity_sink_name>:<pad_n>.
> mkdir will be rejected if either <entity_src_name> or <entity_sink_name> 
> are not found in /configfs/vimc/vimc0/entities/
> The link will only be created if both entities are in "plugged" state.
> When an entity is removed from /configfs/vimc/vimc0/entities/ with 
> rmdir, its corresponding link folders at
> /configfs/vimc/vimc0/links will be automatically removed.
> If one of the entities changes from "plugged" to "unplugged", the link 
> is only removed from the media
> representation, the link folder won't be removed.
> flags can be one of "", "enabled", "immutable", "dynamic", 
> "dynamic,enabled".
> flags cannot be changed if the link was already created in the media 
> controller, to alter it unplug the
> device through /configfs/vimc/vimc0/hotplug or unplug one of the source 
> or sink entities connected to the
> link through its hotplug file.
> flags are of type "" by default.
> 

I'm a bit uncertain about the hotplug part. We don't really support this yet, so
why add this to vimc now?

Otherwise this seems a sane proposal to me.

Regards,

	Hans

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