linux-kernel - Re: [RFC PATCH 7/9] housekeeping: Use own boot option, independant from nohz

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Message-ID: <1502810123.1349.71.camel@gmx.de>
Date:   Tue, 15 Aug 2017 17:15:23 +0200
From:   Mike Galbraith <efault@....de>
To:     Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com>
Cc:     Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@...hat.com>,
        LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
        Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
        Chris Metcalf <cmetcalf@...lanox.com>,
        Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
        Christoph Lameter <cl@...ux.com>,
        "Paul E . McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
        Ingo Molnar <mingo@...nel.org>, Rik van Riel <riel@...hat.com>,
        Wanpeng Li <kernellwp@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 7/9] housekeeping: Use own boot option, independant
 from nohz

On Tue, 2017-08-15 at 15:07 +0200, Frederic Weisbecker wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 08:29:46PM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Mon, 2017-08-14 at 13:34 -0400, Luiz Capitulino wrote:
> > > On Mon, 14 Aug 2017 19:01:09 +0200
> > > 
> > > > What is the source of the load balancing inducing such latency when a single
> > > > task is affine to a CPU? If this is idle load balancing, it is now affine to
> > > > housekeepers. If this is task wakeup then it's suprising because select_task_rq()
> > > > is optimized toward single CPU affinity.
> > > 
> > > I guess it was idle load balancing, but I don't remember because this
> > > was a few years ago. I think this might be reproducible without using
> > > isolcpus=. I'll give it a try shortly and let you know.
> > 
> > idle_balance() can swamp other noise by a couple orders of magnitude,
> 
> Ah I missed that one. Is there any way we can also lower the overhead there?

Why?  HPC proggies won't benefit from a partially filled pothole any
more that a ~zero ground clearance formula 1 car would.  The pothole
intolerant either isolate, killing (most) LB, or they meet a wall.

	-Mike