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Message-ID: <a606ab17-6fb9-2ce1-3b3b-5a2e72d3fc7c@xilinx.com>
Date:   Tue, 26 Sep 2017 20:06:08 +0200
From:   Michal Simek <michal.simek@...inx.com>
To:     Philip Balister <philip@...ister.org>,
        Moritz Fischer <mdf@...nel.org>,
        Michal Simek <michal.simek@...inx.com>
CC:     <devicetree@...r.kernel.org>,
        <linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org>, <robh+dt@...nel.org>,
        <mark.rutland@....com>, <linux@...linux.org.uk>,
        <gregkh@...uxfoundation.org>, <davem@...emloft.net>,
        <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@...db.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] arm: dts: Add support for National Instruments
 Project Sulfur SDRs

On 26.9.2017 19:58, Philip Balister wrote:
> On 09/26/2017 01:50 PM, Moritz Fischer wrote:
>> Michal,
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 02:54:48PM +0200, Michal Simek wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 25.9.2017 18:11, Moritz Fischer wrote:
>>>> Hi Michal,
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 10:19:44AM +0200, Michal Simek wrote:
>>>>> Hi Moritz
>>>>>
>>>>> sorry for delay.
>>>>
>>>> No problem.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12.9.2017 01:22, Moritz Fischer wrote:
>>>>>> Add support for the National Instruments Project Sulfur SDR
>>>>>> motherboards Rev 2,3 and 4.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Moritz Fischer <mdf@...nel.org>
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>  arch/arm/boot/dts/Makefile                |   3 +
>>>>>>  arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev2.dts |  84 +++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>  arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev3.dts | 118 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>  arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev4.dts |  26 ++++++
>>>>>>  arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur.dtsi     | 133 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>  5 files changed, 364 insertions(+)
>>>>>>  create mode 100644 arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev2.dts
>>>>>>  create mode 100644 arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev3.dts
>>>>>>  create mode 100644 arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur-rev4.dts
>>>>>>  create mode 100644 arch/arm/boot/dts/zynq-ni-sulfur.dtsi
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this publicly available board?
>>>>
>>>> Will be in Q1 2018 was announced at GRCon'17 ([1]).
>>>> Some of the Rev3s are currently deployed in Norway as part of a radar
>>>> system.
>>>>
>>>>> I am not quite sure we should apply these dts files. There are a lot of
>>>>> boards with zynq and there must be any strong argument for applying this
>>>>> to the tree. For arm32 with even flat tree structure.
>>>>
>>>> What's the issue with merging them, except for having 3 more files? 
>>>
>>> For me this is not a problem because on Linux side it is not increasing
>>> build time.
>>> I want to see the value for community. All xilinx platforms are
>>> evaluation generic purpose boards which are showing how to connect stuff
>>> together.
>>> On the other hand this is real product.
>>
>> Uh.
>>
>>> I would let arm-soc maintainer to decide if this is fine or not. I
>>> definitely don't want to end up in situation that we will have dts for
>>> real products which are not bringing any value for others.
>>
>> Sure, it's the maintainers call.
>>
>> I do intend to have my customers run mainline on it eventually, currently
>> I'm a handful of patches away from making that happen. So yes, running
>> mainline is a usecase that matters to me.
>>
>> It is one thing to keep bitching about vendor kernels as a community
>> continuously, but then if someone goes through the effort and actually
>> tries to run mainline, you give them crap like that above.
>>
>> Our products usually come with full schematics [1], firmware, fpga code and all
>> available, I don't know what makes them less useful to the community as a
>> platform to experiment and develop on than Xilinx eval boards.
>>
>> There's several people that I know of both hobbyists and companies that
>> build systems around these platforms, so I don't know ...
> 
> I expect this product to be delivered with full source and a mainline
> kernel, so lets make it easy for Moritz to do the right thing here. This
> makes long term support of this product much easier.
> 
> Acked-by: Philip Balister <philip@...nsdr.com>

I think this is the right way to go. Get ACK from Arnd or Olof or Kevin
and I will merge this.
I am simply just afraid that if a lot of zynq customers will ask for it
we can will end up with a lot of zynq/zynqmp based dts files in the
kernel and arm-soc guys will stop this that it is simply too much and
won't accept +1 case.

Thanks,
Michal

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