Date:   Mon, 9 Oct 2017 11:45:17 +0200
From:   Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:     Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@....com>
Cc:     mingo@...nel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, tj@...nel.org,
        josef@...icpanda.com, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
        vincent.guittot@...aro.org, efault@....de, pjt@...gle.com,
        clm@...com, dietmar.eggemann@....com, bsegall@...gle.com,
        yuyang.du@...el.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH -v2 12/18] sched/fair: Rewrite PELT migration propagation

On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 09:08:57AM +0100, Morten Rasmussen wrote:
> > --- a/kernel/sched/debug.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/debug.c
> > @@ -565,6 +565,8 @@ void print_cfs_rq(struct seq_file *m, in
> >  			cfs_rq->removed.load_avg);
> >  	SEQ_printf(m, "  .%-30s: %ld\n", "removed.util_avg",
> >  			cfs_rq->removed.util_avg);
> > +	SEQ_printf(m, "  .%-30s: %ld\n", "removed.runnable_sum",
> > +			cfs_rq->removed.runnable_sum);
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_FAIR_GROUP_SCHED
> >  	SEQ_printf(m, "  .%-30s: %lu\n", "tg_load_avg_contrib",
> >  			cfs_rq->tg_load_avg_contrib);
> > --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
> > @@ -3330,11 +3330,77 @@ void set_task_rq_fair(struct sched_entit
> >  	se->avg.last_update_time = n_last_update_time;
> >  }
> >  
> > -/* Take into account change of utilization of a child task group */
> > +
> > +/*
> > + * When on migration a sched_entity joins/leaves the PELT hierarchy, we need to
> > + * propagate its contribution. The key to this propagation is the invariant
> > + * that for each group:
> > + *
> > + *   ge->avg == grq->avg						(1)
> > + *
> > + * _IFF_ we look at the pure running and runnable sums. Because they
> > + * represent the very same entity, just at different points in the hierarchy.
> > + *
> > + *
> > + * Per the above update_tg_cfs_util() is trivial (and still 'wrong') and
> > + * simply copies the running sum over.
> > + *
> > + * However, update_tg_cfs_runnable() is more complex. So we have:
> > + *
> > + *   ge->avg.load_avg = ge->load.weight * ge->avg.runnable_avg		(2)
> > + *
> > + * And since, like util, the runnable part should be directly transferable,
> > + * the following would _appear_ to be the straight forward approach:
> > + *
> > + *   grq->avg.load_avg = grq->load.weight * grq->avg.running_avg	(3)
> 
> Should it be grq->avg.runnable_avg instead of running_avg?

Yes very much so. Typing hard. Otherwise (3) would not follow from (2)
either.

> cfs_rq->avg.load_avg has been defined previous (in patch 2 I think) to
> be:
> 
> 	load_avg = \Sum se->avg.load_avg
> 		 = \Sum se->load.weight * se->avg.runnable_avg
> 
> That sum will increase when ge is runnable regardless of whether it is
> running or not. So, I think it has to be runnable_avg to make sense?

Ack.

> > + *
> > + * And per (1) we have:
> > + *
> > + *   ge->avg.running_avg == grq->avg.running_avg
> 
> You just said further up that (1) only applies to running and runnable
> sums? These are averages, so I think this is invalid use of (1). But
> maybe that is part of your point about (4) being wrong?
> 
> I'm still trying to get my head around the remaining bits, but it sort
> of depends if I understood the above bits correctly :)

So while true, the thing we're looking for is indeed runnable_avg.

> > + *
> > + * Which gives:
> > + *
> > + *                      ge->load.weight * grq->avg.load_avg
> > + *   ge->avg.load_avg = -----------------------------------		(4)
> > + *                               grq->load.weight
> > + *
> > + * Except that is wrong!
> > + *
> > + * Because while for entities historical weight is not important and we
> > + * really only care about our future and therefore can consider a pure
> > + * runnable sum, runqueues can NOT do this.
> > + *
> > + * We specifically want runqueues to have a load_avg that includes
> > + * historical weights. Those represent the blocked load, the load we expect
> > + * to (shortly) return to us. This only works by keeping the weights as
> > + * integral part of the sum. We therefore cannot decompose as per (3).
> > + *
> > + * OK, so what then?

And as the text above suggests, we cannot decompose because it contains
the blocked weight, which is not included in grq->load.weight and thus
things come apart.

> > + * Another way to look at things is:
> > + *
> > + *   grq->avg.load_avg = \Sum se->avg.load_avg
> > + *
> > + * Therefore, per (2):
> > + *
> > + *   grq->avg.load_avg = \Sum se->load.weight * se->avg.runnable_avg
> > + *
> > + * And the very thing we're propagating is a change in that sum (someone
> > + * joined/left). So we can easily know the runnable change, which would be, per
> > + * (2) the already tracked se->load_avg divided by the corresponding
> > + * se->weight.
> > + *
> > + * Basically (4) but in differential form:
> > + *
> > + *   d(runnable_avg) += se->avg.load_avg / se->load.weight
> > + *								   (5)
> > + *   ge->avg.load_avg += ge->load.weight * d(runnable_avg)

And this all has runnable again, and so should make sense.

Combined with an earlier bit, noted by Dietmar, I now have the below
delta.


---
 kernel/sched/fair.c | 8 ++++----
 1 file changed, 4 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-)

diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
index b9e520b6923e..ba879c42bddd 100644
--- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
+++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
@@ -3333,7 +3333,7 @@ __update_load_avg_cfs_rq(u64 now, int cpu, struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq)
  * differential update where we store the last value we propagated. This in
  * turn allows skipping updates if the differential is 'small'.
  *
- * Updating tg's load_avg is necessary before update_cfs_share().
+ * Updating tg's load_avg is necessary before update_cfs_group().
  */
 static inline void update_tg_load_avg(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, int force)
 {
@@ -3422,11 +3422,11 @@ void set_task_rq_fair(struct sched_entity *se,
  * And since, like util, the runnable part should be directly transferable,
  * the following would _appear_ to be the straight forward approach:
  *
- *   grq->avg.load_avg = grq->load.weight * grq->avg.running_avg	(3)
+ *   grq->avg.load_avg = grq->load.weight * grq->avg.runnable_avg	(3)
  *
  * And per (1) we have:
  *
- *   ge->avg.running_avg == grq->avg.running_avg
+ *   ge->avg.runnable_avg == grq->avg.runnable_avg
  *
  * Which gives:
  *
@@ -3601,7 +3601,7 @@ static inline void add_tg_cfs_propagate(struct cfs_rq *cfs_rq, long runnable_sum
  * avg. The immediate corollary is that all (fair) tasks must be attached, see
  * post_init_entity_util_avg().
  *
- * cfs_rq->avg is used for task_h_load() and update_cfs_share() for example.
+ * cfs_rq->avg is used for task_h_load() and update_cfs_group() for example.
  *
  * Returns true if the load decayed or we removed load.
  *

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